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| Niek van Wijk |
Posted on 15-03-2008 19:53
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Member Location: Putte, The Netherlands Posts: 576 Joined: 20.10.07 |
Dear forum, I took a picture of this fly today in my garden. Is it Anthomyiidae and can it be further identified? Best regards, Niek Niek van Wijk attached the following image:  [131.27Kb] |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 15-03-2008 22:04
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 Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
Based on recent threads, I think Egle.
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| Niek van Wijk |
Posted on 16-03-2008 09:02
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Member Location: Putte, The Netherlands Posts: 576 Joined: 20.10.07 |
Dear Susan, Thank you for your reply. I just did a forum-search on Egle and I think you are right. Best regards, Niek |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 16-03-2008 09:41
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9229 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Let's wait for Micheal, I don't think it is Egle. Female of Egle looks much more "brutal"  Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Michael Ackland |
Posted on 16-03-2008 11:58
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 680 Joined: 23.02.08 |
I think it is probably an Egle female. It is not E. ciliata as there are only 3 post dc setae. One can just see the upturned mouth margin I think. Small Egle fenales look like this, not very bristly. They are very difficult to identify even under the microscope, and you won't find a key to females in my British species keys. This photo could be minuta, parva, rhinotmeta which are the commonest species. It is also the right time of the year for Egles, March and April when the sallow blossom is out. How about some photos of anthos like Jorge's "Who am I"? All those lovely bristles showing up! I will try to photo a small Egle female with my limited equipment. |
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| Niek van Wijk |
Posted on 16-03-2008 12:17
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Member Location: Putte, The Netherlands Posts: 576 Joined: 20.10.07 |
Dear Michael and Nikita, Thank you very much for your comments and explanation. Best regards, Niek |
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| Michael Ackland |
Posted on 16-03-2008 12:36
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 680 Joined: 23.02.08 |
Having just looked at some female Egle species, I am now of the opinion that it is not Egle. None of them have a distinct median vitta on scutum, and the colour is drab brown and parafacials are wider. Here are two photos
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| Michael Ackland |
Posted on 16-03-2008 12:38
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 680 Joined: 23.02.08 |
another of head
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| Kahis |
Posted on 16-03-2008 13:42
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
That is what I'd call a typical Egle: a spring anthomyiid with a short, strongly face and small antennae. It is difficult to judge whether Niek's fly has a 'stiff upper lip' from the photo alone. It is clearly an anthomyid, but not of the characteristic spring genera Phorbia and Egle. My first hunch was in fact Botanophila, but I cannot offer any support whatsoever for the idea. Perhaps it's just the fact that the last anthomyids I've seen where Botanophila... Kahis |
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| Niek van Wijk |
Posted on 16-03-2008 13:43
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Member Location: Putte, The Netherlands Posts: 576 Joined: 20.10.07 |
Dear Michael, Thank you very much. So I will record it as Anthomyiidae sp...... Best regards, Niek |
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| Niek van Wijk |
Posted on 16-03-2008 14:45
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Member Location: Putte, The Netherlands Posts: 576 Joined: 20.10.07 |
Dear Kahis, Thank you for your comments (your reply came in while I was typing my reply to Michael). Best regards, Niek |
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but don't see the image in the post.