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Haematopota italica ? (2nd specimen) - north-western France
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 an other specimen found also in a moor.
Spot on tergites 3 to 6.
First antennal segment long with a small constriction, black-grey.
Femora orange/ brown (exactly as bigoti).
Is it ok for italica ?
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 I have a doubt with this one, could it be gallica ? The first segment is not so long as italica in direct comparaison with the other specimen in my other post. (And I found two specimens of gallica in our pro collection, identified by M. Portillo, same area, North western France)
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 Gallica is just a synonym of italica, it is a "ghost species"

And yes, very nice female italica. In doubt, colouration of femora is a big clue (otherwise only found in bigoti, very different, and grandis)

Theo
 
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 Thanks Theo !
Where can I find the publication where gallica and italica are synonymized ? For my information and for actualisation of national liste.
Benoît
 
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 As I recall, it was a publication by Wolfgang Schacht, but I cannot find it 1-2-3.
In any case, given as synonym by Portillo for Iberian peninsula.


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 It was in an appendix, therefore difficult to find Sad

https://www.zobodat.at/pdf/ENT_0005_0483-0498.pdf
 
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 Thanks Theo
 
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