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Thai07. Mucha tsokotucha
Nikita Vikhrev
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Chantaburi, Khao Khitchakut, primer forest, near excrements, 4mm.
1.Few years ago Emilia Narchuk, bieng in Hanoi city, Vietnam, occasionaly collected using net some material in herb. Sepsidaes was send to Andrey Ozerov, who discribed new species of new genus by only one fly.
2.In Russia this story is rather wellknown. ?Musca? ? fly in Latin, ?mukha? ? fly in Russian, ?mukha tsokotukha? ? personage of Russian tale for youngest child, as Franch ?Chapeau Rouge?.
3.Mucha tsokotucha is easy to identify as it is the unic known Sepsidae with plumose arista. To be sure that itsn?t some ?Mucha non-tsokotucha?, I only need to compare my collected fly with holotype in Moscow Zoo Musem.
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Well, you summed it up quite nicely. When I saw the picture I thought 'Sepsid', then I saw the arista and thought 'hold on, what does a sepsid do with a plumose aristea?' Being unique, I guess that is what it is doing. Smile
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This trip I began to collect flies, first time in my life. It is as interesting sport as make photo, especialy if the task is both photo and fly.
Mostly I collect Sepsidae, because I hope to identified its with Ozerov help and Dolichopodidae, because I like its very much.
If somebody needs Thai flies of any group let me know, I'll do my best.
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So you did find the notorious one! Congratulations!
 
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Yes, Dima.
As you remember it was my dream-idae for this trip.
See you soon, Nikita
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LoL, save a specimen or two for me. Wink
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So far, only one of kind, but I'll keep trying.
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PfftPfftPfftPfftPfftPfft All smiles today Fascinating find.
 
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I e-mailed your photo to Adrian Pont, better known for his work on Muscidae but who is also interested in Sepsidae (RESL Handbook). He replied " That really is one of the weirdest sepsids. I know Ozerov's description, but of course had never seen the fly itself. Wonderful plumose arista (unique), and also unique perpendicular scutellum".
So there are morePfftPfft
 
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1. Thank you for interest to this fly.
2. Correct name as I just discovered is Mucha tZokotucha.
3. I hadn't seen plumose arista in forest, so I understood that it is Mucha only half day later in another place. I keep searchin more.
Nikita
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Bad news:
1. Somehow this fly escaped out of my exgauster and wasn't collected. I discovered it only in Moscow under microscop.
2. Looking at photo Ozerov told that it is not Mucha tzokotucha, which arista plumose only on one upper side.
3. Andrey also told me that it is not Sepsidae at all.
Good news:
1. Andrey told that he has seen such fly, but forget it.
2. Today Andrey told me that he is not sure, but he think it is Formicosepsis (tinctipennis?), Cypselosomatidae.
3. According Australian checklist:
"genus Formicosepsis had been placed in the families Micropezidae, Clusiidae, Sepsidae. More recent authors either treated this genus in a single family closely related to the Pseudopomyzidae..." So anyway it is interesting fly.
4. I'll find M.tzokotucha in November.
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