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Thai07. Rhagio?
Nikita Vikhrev
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Posted on 05-01-2006 17:23
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Pattaya, bush, 9mm.
www.diptera.info/forim/5-1100-1.jpg
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The shape of the head reminded me of Asilidae (slighly sunken between the compound eyes), but there is no clear mystax (beard). You may be right, though it has some therevid features as well. Always tricky, these Orientals.
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To me, it is a Therevid.
Rhagionidae have an arista.
Paul already explained why it is no Asilid (though he put it differently).
Moreover, it looks like a Thereva !


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What can I say?
1. Thank you, Paul and Theo.
2. Fly is collected.
Nikita
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This is clearly a female Therevidae, Kevin Holston agrees it should be genus Irwiniella, the species in the Oriental region are in desparate need of a revision.
It is a great picture and I would like to ask if we could use it on a website of World Therevidae, which is under development. So far the Australian taxa are covered:
http://www.cdfa.c..._page.html

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Irwiniella sp.! Thank you!
Of course, you can use it. I also add dorsal view.

May be you know genus in case of Russian Therevida? http://www.dipter...#post_3473

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One more question.
This unshaven Gentleman, is it male Irwiniella sp.?
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Wow excellent pics... The two last pics are males belonging to the same Irwiniella species like the female! I hope you catch them too..conserving them in 90% alcohol would be also important for molecular studies..
Thanks a lot for the permission!
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