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 Sarcophagidae or Tachinidae (northern France)=> Sarcophagidae
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| clovis |
Posted on 24-11-2022 17:13
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Member Location: North France, lille Posts: 914 Joined: 08.06.10 |
Hi, Here is a specimen I'm not sure about the family. To me, this big subscutellum should make it a Tachinidae, but I can't make it fit in any genus (and with those longs hairs on arista, I believe it should be easy!) So maybe I am wrong and it is a Sarcophagidae? This specimen has two post ia Prosternum hairy 3 post dc, R1 hairy from radio cubital node, hairy till halfway to rm. Eyes bare (Lateral view of the head gives a strange impression of hairs on the face. It is same individu) Caught in the dunes.  clovis : France : Groffliers : 62600 : 09/05/2022 Altitude : 9 m - Taille : 6 mm Réf. : 315684  clovis : France : Groffliers : 62600 : 09/05/2022 Altitude : 9 m - Taille : 6 mm Réf. : 315685  clovis : France : Groffliers : 62600 : 09/05/2022 Altitude : 9 m - Taille : 6 mm Réf. : 315683  clovis : France : Groffliers : 62600 : 09/05/2022 Altitude : 9 m - Taille : 6 mm Réf. : 315682  clovis : France : Groffliers : 62600 : 09/05/2022 Altitude : 10 m - Taille : 6 mm Réf. : 315691 Edited by clovis on 01-12-2022 12:36 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 24-11-2022 19:46
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18787 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Very few Tachinds have paraficial bristles, a clear key pointing towards Sarcs. The ‘big postscutellum’ you mentioned is not the postscutellum, but the structure below it. The postscutellum is actually narrow. Theo |
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| clovis |
Posted on 24-11-2022 21:01
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Member Location: North France, lille Posts: 914 Joined: 08.06.10 |
Aaaah, I now have the explanation! Sarcophagidae was my intuition, but couldn't find how to objectify it! I didn't know that some structure could imitate the postscutellum, I'll have to be carefull. A family I know almost nothing about, I'll keep this specimen for a day I'll get to it. For now, I have to finish all my Tachinidae of the year! Thanks for the help 
Edited by clovis on 24-11-2022 21:02 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 25-11-2022 20:29
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18787 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Take a Dinera, Tachina or other laege Tachinidae and study the postscutellum and the strucure below it. Then restudy this Sarc and you will reach enlightenment  Theo |
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| clovis |
Posted on 30-11-2022 12:35
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Member Location: North France, lille Posts: 914 Joined: 08.06.10 |
You are right, it is now quite clear!  |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 30-11-2022 13:26
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18787 Joined: 21.07.04 |
“If I was wrong, don’t you think I’d know it ? “ ( Sheldon, Big Bang Theory) |
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| clovis |
Posted on 01-12-2022 12:26
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Member Location: North France, lille Posts: 914 Joined: 08.06.10 |
I did not expect Sheldon to be quoted on this forum^^ I had to catch a Sarcophagidae once to understand this subscutellum thing! Now i'm sure I won't miss any Calliphoridae hidden in my Tachinidae to Id! |
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