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Musca domestica or autumnalis?
zcuc
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Posted on 17-01-2008 01:13
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Recently I'm trying to photo M.domestica in Israel but it seem there are so many musca that it is a little confusing.

I not sure, it this male M.autumnalis?
If so what are the difference from M.domestica ?
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Posted on 17-01-2008 09:16
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There might be more species in Israel.
This looks like the male of autumnalis.
domestica males are not that orange, at least not with us.


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zcuc
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Posted on 26-03-2008 22:58
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Hi,

I would like to ask something that bother me. I'd read that Musca autumnalis male eyes should almost touch each other but here they look a bit apart. it is possible with M.autumnalis ?

thanks
 
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Posted on 26-03-2008 23:08
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I'd say it is not autumnalis. The color of the abdomen is not a good character as it depends on the temperature during larval (or pupal) development. There are several other species that may occur in Israel: Musca albina, M. conducens, M. crassirostris etc.). There are 12 Musca species in Europe alone. Most of them could well occur is Israel, as well as several north african species.
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Posted on 26-03-2008 23:20
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It isn't:
M.sorbens
M.albina - too dusted mesonotum
M.crassirostris - has all grey abdomen
M.confiscata - small black
My vote for M.cf.domestica?
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
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