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Cheilosia sp. --> Cheilosia carbonaria male
Jann Wuebbenhorst
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I have problems identifying this Cheilosia male - somewhere in the key I lost the path.
It was found on 18th May 2021 near the Elbe River, on extensive grassland near a forest edge (Germany, Niedersachsen, Lüneburg). Size is 9 mm.
Maybe you can help me.
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The size and other characters point towards Cheilosia carbonaria, I think.
 
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Many thanks, Karsten!
I think you're right. I've checked all characters now given bei Bot & van de Meutter (2019), and carbonaria fits very well.

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