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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 03-12-2005 06:28
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14250 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello! There were about a dozen or more species of Diptera active here in Ostwestfalen/Germany yesterday (0 ?C, sunny). Most of them known to me, but there remain some unidentified... I know the photos are not the best, but perhaps can someone help me to determine at least the families. Thanks in advance! The first one was only 8-10 mm long, tiny, shining black with brown wings:  Another one (15-20 mm) on a tree trunk seems to be a Calliphoridae:  Also this one on our house's wall:  Again on the wall a 10-15 mm long one. Not sure about the family:  This 10 mm Muscidae or Anthomyiidae (?) I found on a Sinapis arvensis field:  Another 10 mm-Anthomyiidae or Muscidae (Helina?). These were the most abundant flies yesterday sunbathing:  The last one should be clear: Scatophaga sp.: 
Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 03-12-2005 11:16
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9475 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Hi Jurgen, could I try? 1. (upper) - Sphaeroceridae 2, 3 - Calliphora sp. The last - Scathophaga sp. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 03-12-2005 11:28
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9475 Joined: 24.05.05 |
4. (dark fly after Calliphora) - I think it is also Dryomyza flaveola
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 03-12-2005 11:34
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14250 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Nikita! Thanks a lot! For the Calliphora sp. I first thought it was Polietes or another Muscid because I didn't see any metallic blue, but after having a look at the wing venation I think you are right with Calliphora. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 03-12-2005 11:58
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19133 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Hi Juergen, Bless the usefulness of the bend in vein M ! I agree Theo |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 03-12-2005 15:37
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
4. Heleomyzidae are typica winter flies and I suspect this is the of them (although it could also be Dryomyzidae like Nikita proposed) 5. & 6. Anthomyiidae male + female, quite possibly of the same species. If pressed for a name I'd say Delia, but there are similar flies in many other genera. Kahis |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 03-12-2005 15:56
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9475 Joined: 24.05.05 |
4. My reasons: a. antenae 3-d is too long for Heleomyzidae. b. Most of all - given size 10-15 is about top level for Heleomyzidae, but just siutable for Dryomyza flaveola (also winter fly). Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| lynkos |
Posted on 03-12-2005 17:09
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Member Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 466 Joined: 20.06.05 |
Hard not to get enthusiastic about these real survivors of the insect world. Here we're into a rainy spell that makes photographs pretty impossible, but I'm sure that when the sun comes back out, I'll be able to find something interesting to add to the winter's collection  Sarah |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 03-12-2005 22:34
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Just a tip for the next time: to keep a better overview of what you have, spread the images over several threads.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 04-12-2005 03:44
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14250 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello to all, and thanks for your hints! Paul Beuk wrote: Just a tip for the next time: to keep a better overview of what you have, spread the images over several threads. You are right. With so many pics I'm always in doubt whether it is better for the overview to make several threads or "concentrate" all in just one. Looking at the replies in this case it would have been better to spread the images... Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 04-12-2005 03:50
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14250 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Nikita! Nikita Vikhrev wrote: b. Most of all - given size 10-15 is about top level for Heleomyzidae, but just siutable for Dryomyza flaveola (also winter fly). At first I also thought of a Heleomyzidae, but just as you wrote: that would have been the biggest Heleomyzidae I have seen. Not sure if it was really 15 mm, but definitely over 10 mm. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 04-12-2005 17:37
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9475 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Hello Jurgen. 1. I'm sure I understand that Kahis's knowledge and my knowledge can not even be compared, so if Kahis told it is Heleomyzidae, than 99% it is. 2. But... If you will be so kind to attach better resolution image of this fly... Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 04-12-2005 18:35
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Hi. Hmm didn't consider the size. 10mm is close to the upper limit expected for Heleomyzidae - I guess the length you give is from head to wing tip, not body length. As for the antenna, I don't think it's possible to say what shape it has from the photo. Kahis |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 05-12-2005 06:27
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14250 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello! Nikita Vikhrev wrote: 2. But... If you will be so kind to attach better resolution image of this I'm sorry, but I don't have a petter picture. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 03-02-2006 19:49
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2419 Joined: 05.01.06 |
in my opinion there is probably Scoliocentra villosa (Mg.), the biggest one (11-12mm) in Heleomyzini. The colour of mesonotum is typical for this species. Andrzej  |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 03-02-2006 21:30
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14250 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Andrzej! Andrzej wrote: in my opinion there is probably Scoliocentra villosa (Mg.), the biggest one (11-12mm) in Heleomyzini. The colour of mesonotum is typical for this species. Thank you very much, I will look if I can find some information on that species. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 06-02-2006 14:09
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2419 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Dear Juergen, there is an excellent work on the villosa species: Skidmore, P., 1966, The biology of Scoliocentra villosa (Mg.). (Diptera, Heleomyzidae), Ent. Monthly Mag., 102: 94-98. Best wishes, Andrzej  |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 06-02-2006 20:08
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14250 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Amdrzej! Andrzej wrote: there is an excellent work on the villosa species: Skidmore, P., 1966, The biology of Scoliocentra villosa (Mg.). (Diptera, Heleomyzidae), Ent. Monthly Mag., 102: 94-98. Thanks again! Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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