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Clusiidae or Chloropidae ?
Roy
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Posted on 06-01-2022 15:31
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Hello,
this fly found in the dike of a polder pose to me a problem of famly.Size : 3 mm.
At Barbâtre- west of France-07 10 2021

The appearance of the head seems curious but I can say if it is due to the examination or if it is natural.

Thanks by advance for its identification.

Best regards

Christian

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos294/big/Chloropidae-Barbatre-RNN%20Sebastopol-07%2010%202021_00001.jpg
roy : France : Barbâtre : 85630 : 07/10/2021
Altitude : 0 m - Taille : 3 mm.
Réf. : 294888

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos294/big/Chloropidae%20ad%20x%204-Barbatre-RNN%20Sebastopol-07%2010%202021_00001.jpg
roy : France : Barbâtre : 85630 : 07/10/2021
Altitude : 0 m - Taille : 3 mm.
Réf. : 294889

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos294/big/Chloropidae%20te%20th%20x%204-Barbatre-RNN%20Sebastopol-07%2010%202021_00001.jpg
roy : France : Barbâtre : 85630 : 07/10/2021
Altitude : 0 m - Taille : 3 mm.
Réf. : 294890
 
Tony Irwin
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It seems to have a well-developed anal vein, so I don't think Chloropidae. May be worth trying Psilidae?
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Roy
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Ah ok.

We will try this family.

Thank you very much.

Best regards.

Christian
 
Roy
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Posted on 07-01-2022 15:08
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Hello,
Chamaepsila unilineata was suggested yesterday on the "forum du monde des insectes" by Eugène Vdb.

Is it good ?

Best regards.

Christian
 
Tony Irwin
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Yes, that seems the most likely species from these photos.
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Roy
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Thank you very much.

Best regards.

Christian
 
Jocelyn Claude
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Posted on 21-09-2022 16:30
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Hi, After examining this specimen under my bino, it is not possible that it is Chamaepsila unilineatas. The specimen has in fact one pair of dc (not two). There is a second, shorter dc (not a pair). It is not a true dc which has a 'button' at its birth. By studying the specimen in hand I can confirm that there is only one true pair of dc.
In the other hand the postpedicels are black (not yellow). If one follows the keys, one would logically end up with Chamaepsila ephippium (Zetterstedt, 1847). Examination of the terminala confirms this (picture here:https://www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/view.php?ref=307410).
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