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| MorganA |
Posted on 01-11-2021 14:22
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Is this Cephenemyia trompe? Mid Norway 28.8.2021 MorganA attached the following image:  [292.4Kb] Edited by MorganA on 09-11-2021 19:10 |
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| MorganA |
Posted on 01-11-2021 14:22
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| MorganA |
Posted on 01-11-2021 14:23
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 01-11-2021 19:54
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18518 Joined: 21.07.04 |
So, where did you find it (habitat ?). As far as I am aware, genuine trompe always have a transversal band of black hairs on abdomen. This would be a candidate C. stimulator. Theo |
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| MorganA |
Posted on 02-11-2021 16:37
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Thank you Theo, I found this about 520 meters above sea, in a valley with peat, was some trees around were i found it, but most of the area are treeless dominated by peat. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 02-11-2021 19:07
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18518 Joined: 21.07.04 |
It proofs nothing, but it fitd better to stimulator (host: Capreolus) than trompe ( reindeer). Theo |
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| MorganA |
Posted on 02-11-2021 20:12
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There is alot of reindeer in the area tho, its a place where alot of tame reindeers have their feeding ground. Is there any other morphological details that could make us sure? |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 03-11-2021 10:16
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18518 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Grunin in Lindner says "*Vertical keel on facial shield (below the antenna) normally absent. Tergites 3-5 without any black hairs along the central axis --> stimulator. * Vertical keel on facial shield present. Tergites 3-5 along central axis with a narrow zone of black hairs. -> trompe (and ulrichi)." THeo |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 03-11-2021 10:19
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18518 Joined: 21.07.04 |
In his description of trompe he states "Tergites largely with dirty-yellow hairs. At sides of tergites 2 and 3 a large spot of black hairs. Along the central axis of tergites 3-5 a very narrow bend of black hairs, which can be difficult to see." |
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| MorganA |
Posted on 03-11-2021 22:05
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Thank you, I don't know what the keel is supposed to look like.
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| MorganA |
Posted on 03-11-2021 22:07
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I also can't see any dark hairs at all on abdomen. So I guess most of this points to stimulator. The species doesen't seem to be registered from Norway before tho.
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 04-11-2021 12:56
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18518 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I am sorry, I took your word for it that it was a Cephenemyia. But looking at the wing venation, this strongly suggests this is the male of Hypoderma tarandi ! Could you provide a better view on the venation ? Theo Edited by Zeegers on 04-11-2021 12:56 |
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| MorganA |
Posted on 04-11-2021 15:14
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Thank you for your effort, here is a picture of wing
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 04-11-2021 17:04
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18518 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Yeap, that is Hypoderma (tarandi). That solves the mystery ! Reindeer, after all. Theo |
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| MorganA |
Posted on 04-11-2021 18:13
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Great! Thank you Theo  |
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but don't see the image in the post.