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Nice looking brown fly => Chrysopilus laetus, f.
Peter Preus
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Posted on 15-06-2021 00:38
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This fly was sitting on a tomato plant in my small green house. Date is 13.06.2021, location is near Heidelberg in Germany.
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Edited by Peter Preus on 18-06-2021 23:40
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Posted on 15-06-2021 07:45
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The female of Chrysopilus sp from the group containing nubecula, laeta, luteola and pullus. The third antennal segement is darker than the two first, which should narrow this down to nubecula and laeta. Since the legs are not entirely yellow, this is likely to be laetus/laeta. Let us see what Theo will say.
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Posted on 17-06-2021 11:42

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I agree. If it is an European species (always an if in greenhouses), it must be laetus female.
The species is generally more orange that yellow, as shown in the picture.

Laetus (or laetus-like) specimens are more often found in greenhouses (to be published next month in Entomologische Berichten, Amsterdam).

Peter Preus
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Posted on 18-06-2021 23:36
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Thank you, Gabor and Theo
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