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 Gordon's Thai Project.
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| Gordon |
Posted on 07-09-2010 12:50
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 Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1099 Joined: 02.01.08 |
I guess this should be in general whatsits but I said I would put it here so I have. To collect legally in Thailand you need to have a government approved project. I am hoping that by being a full-time resident and by working in harmony with only a couple of local National Parks, ones that are not as well studied as Doi Inthanon, that I will be able to get such a project together. With luck this will allow me to collect in some nice habitats here in far northern Thailand. As you all know, when dealing with bureaucracy it is best to have grand sounding names etc. I will be working partly with the NHM London, they will get most of the beetles, and a group of Romanian microhymenopterists (whom some of you now know) So I will present the project with a list of associates and (where possible) their institutes. I am sure some of you would like to receive material as well.So if you would like to be in on the submitted project add your name, institute and group below. I am sorry I will not have time to dry and pin stuff. I will most likely be restricted to Yellowpan trapping and hand netting (because of lack of funds). Also I will be sorting with a x10 hand lens only, unless I find a microscope somewhere that I can use. So separating out the smaller acalyptrata may be problematical, you know I am not much good as a dipterist really  .I am sure promising to return info to the relevant authorities of Lam Nam Kok National Park will help, and perhaps some determined material to Chiang Mai University, so there will be a commitment to get some stuff determined fairly quickly. I will keep people informed as things develop.  or don't
Edited by Gordon on 07-09-2010 14:35 Gordon |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 07-09-2010 13:19
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 Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
It's interesting but I should really pass on oriental tachinids, as I am spread so thinly on the neotropical already Theo might like to give them a try, because they should be identifiable to genus using Crosskey and perhaps other papers. But if he passes you should really try Hiroshi Shima, as he is the local expert on the oriental tachinids.  EDIT: Unless I am reading it incorrectly you should change Greece to Thailand in the second paragraph
Edited by ChrisR on 07-09-2010 13:20 Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 07-09-2010 13:33
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 Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
Hey Gordon, Yes, I would be interested in identifying the Thai syrphids that you catch! Name: Gerard Pennards Institute: Dutch Entomological society and Nederlands Centrum Biodiversiteit (NCB- Naturalis) Leiden Group: Syrphidae Greetings Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 07-09-2010 14:38
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1099 Joined: 02.01.08 |
ChrisR wrote: ................. But if he passes you should really try Hiroshi Shima, as he is the local expert on the oriental tachinids. Thanks Chris, but this time I'm not really worried what gets determined and what doesn't. If people are interested, and if I can get the project off the ground, then I will send stuff, but really I am only offering to collect because some people asked me to. ChrisR wrote: EDIT: Unless I am reading it incorrectly you should change Greece to Thailand in the second paragraph Your reading is fine, and it is fixed. Thanks Gordon |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 07-09-2010 14:40
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1099 Joined: 02.01.08 |
OK Gerard, I will include you in the proposition.
Gordon |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 07-09-2010 15:15
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19363 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Dr Paul L.Th. Beuk Natuurhistorisch Museum Maastricht Empidoidea I can probably pass on the Dolichopodidae that are included in Empidoidea to Marc Pollet, but if he or someone else offers him/herself for the Dolichopodidae and you sort them out, they can be excluded from the Empidoidea. Though many groups are of interest to me I will not vollunteer for them (yet ) but perhaps wait till any unsorted material is delivered.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 07-09-2010 17:54
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2358 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Heleomyzidae, Piophilidae , Pseudopomyzidae, if any will be taken :-)
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| libor |
Posted on 07-09-2010 20:05
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Member Location: western Bohemia Posts: 1274 Joined: 30.05.09 |
Libor Dvorak Municipal Museum Marianske Lazne (Marienbad) Hymenoptera: Vespidae |
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| Nosferatumyia |
Posted on 08-09-2010 06:44
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 Member Location: Posts: 3449 Joined: 29.12.07 |
Pyrgotidae (at black light, along w/moths and on flowers) is the main target now, as I am doing a revision of the Old World genera. I can also help with Oriental Tephritidae, incl. bamboo ones, Ulidiidae/Otitidae and Platystomatidae. Valery A. Korneyev, DSc, PhD Head, General and Applied Entomology Section I.I.Schmalhausen Institute of Zoology National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine Bogdan Chmielnicki St. 15 01601 Kiev UKRAINE http://sites.google.com/site/nosferatumyiano/ Val |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 08-09-2010 12:24
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1099 Joined: 02.01.08 |
OK - it is nice to see some people coming on board, but it is not live yet, Thailand can be even more lethargic, bureaucratically than in Greece - still you know I will do my best.
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| Gordon |
Posted on 08-09-2010 13:56
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1099 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Here's a vespid for you Dvorak.
Gordon attached the following image:  [95.95Kb] Edited by Gordon on 08-09-2010 14:01 Gordon |
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| libor |
Posted on 08-09-2010 15:26
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Member Location: western Bohemia Posts: 1274 Joined: 30.05.09 |
Vespidae: Polistinae: Polistes (Gyrostoma) rothneyi ssp. ??? Need to have it in hands for absolutely exact ID. Libor |
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| Steve Gaimari |
Posted on 08-09-2010 18:10
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 Member Location: Sacramento, California, USA Posts: 169 Joined: 08.10.04 |
Hi Gordon - I'm involved in another Thailand survey project too, so would be delighted with any lauxanioids (lauxaniids, chamaemyiids, celyphids), as well as odiniids, therevids and scenopinids!
Steve Gaimari Plant Pest Diagnostics Lab, CDFA 3294 Meadowview Road Sacramento, CA 95832-1448, USA |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 09-09-2010 11:50
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1099 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Libor wrote: Vespidae: Polistinae: Polistes (Gyrostoma) rothneyi ssp. ??? Need to have it in hands for absolutely exact ID. Libor Thanks Libor, that will do me for a photo. Gordon |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 09-09-2010 11:56
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1099 Joined: 02.01.08 |
OK Stephen, I will add your name. The good news is that Max Barclay's contact here, Mark Isenstadt has offered a Malaise trap, tubes and the loan of a microscope as well as helping to get the permission, so this project might fly yet. Also it turns out that a Thai birding friend of mine in BKK has as his boss a woman who is responsible for giving out permissions. So I'm feeling mildly hopeful at the moment.
Edited by Gordon on 09-09-2010 11:58 Gordon |
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| Christian Kehlmaier |
Posted on 09-09-2010 12:16
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 Member Location: Dresden - Germany Posts: 112 Joined: 19.07.04 |
I'd have a look at any Pipunculidae and Vermileonidae. Dr. Christian Kehlmaier Senckenberg Natural History Collections Dresden Museum of Zoology Dresden, Germany |
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| Iain MacGowan |
Posted on 09-09-2010 12:37
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 Member Location: Perth, Scotland Posts: 446 Joined: 25.11.04 |
Hi Gordon Always interested in Lonchaeidae from Thailand as I have already done quite a lot of work on them - see: http://lonchaeidae.myspecies.info/lonchaeidae-thailand Iain MacGowan Scottish Natural Heritage Battleby, Redgorton Perth PH1 3EW Scotland Iain MacGowan |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 09-09-2010 12:51
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1099 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Paul Beuk wrote: Dr Paul L.Th. Beuk Natuurhistorisch Museum Maastricht Empidoidea Though many groups are of interest to me I will not volunteer for them (yet ) but perhaps wait till any unsorted material is delivered. Ahh Paul, I assume this means you have finished all my Greek Empids  and will be sending me a list soon.
Gordon |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 09-09-2010 12:58
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19363 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I am working on it, my dear man, yet I have numerous unidentifiable species to deal with, any number of which may be new to science. In addition it appears the Greek material expands the known colour variation of some species, adding to the confusion.
Edited by Paul Beuk on 09-09-2010 13:04 Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| phil withers |
Posted on 09-09-2010 15:51
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08 |
Dare I be terribly unhip and ask for the psychodids - if you can be arsed to sort them, that is |
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