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 Nycteribiidae, Bat-fly, Hungary
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| pwalter |
Posted on 09-02-2009 19:10
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 Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Hi! This is a dead bat-fly from a cave in B�kk mountains, Hungary. A really interesting family which I1ve never before seen - can someone tell the genus maybe? Also, doesn't it look like it was parasitised by something? Does this occur? Found on 7th February, body about 3 mm long. pwalter attached the following image:  [194.18Kb] Edited by pwalter on 07-02-2013 09:50 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 09-02-2009 21:48
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19002 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Did you collect it ? I can give you an ID if you send the species. I have some but little experience, so really need the species. Theo |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 09-02-2009 22:02
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Hi! I collected it, but it broke into pieces when I firmly touched it - it must have been dead since a while. Here's another photo. I'll look for alive specimens next time! Do You think it could be parasitised? I mean the hole on the middle of the body.
pwalter attached the following image:  [96.29Kb] |
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| Nosferatumyia |
Posted on 09-02-2009 22:39
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I think the hole could be caused by the pubarium birth.
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| pwalter |
Posted on 10-02-2009 23:37
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Here's one more from what's left from the specimen: EDIT: A wrong pic was here, changed. pwalter attached the following image:  [101.36Kb] Edited by pwalter on 12-02-2009 00:13 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 11-02-2009 20:56
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19002 Joined: 21.07.04 |
It is not paratized, the hole is the spot were the head is lying in rest. Yes, these are weirdos. Theo |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 12-02-2009 13:00
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 Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
Hi, Looks awfully like Penicillidia. To my knowledge, there are only three other genuses in Northern Europe Nycteribia, which are eyeless, minute and louse-like, Basilia, which have curious big eyes with double-lenses and Phthiridium, which I don't have a clue about... Penicillidia monoceros is the most common one nycteribiid here in Finland, based on my little experience. See the images in the gallery, bit poor quality since I don't have proper equipment (pocket camera and microscope). As the name suggest, this species has a "horn" on the head, which I can't see in your specimen, although it might be broken. Jaakko Edited by Jaakko on 12-02-2009 13:02 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 12-02-2009 17:24
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19002 Joined: 21.07.04 |
There might be a misunderstanding here. The fact that the ocellus is doublelensed in Basilia, does not make the eye big. In fact, I had very much trouble finding the eye in Basilia nana. Theo |
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