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 Voriini mating
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| Carnifex |
Posted on 28-01-2026 22:14
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 Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 2018 Joined: 23.06.15 |
Mid March in a park in Vienna - Periscepsia or Wagneria or some other genus? 
Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 29-01-2026 11:31
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19277 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Yes, it is a Wagneriini (are these considered Voriini these days ?) Very difficult to say more. But Ramonda (either as genus or as subgenus of Periscepsia) are by far the most common. Theo |
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| Carnifex |
Posted on 31-01-2026 11:03
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Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 2018 Joined: 23.06.15 |
I think I can see >2 upright bristles on scutellum - to rule out Periscepsia carbonaria. And no discal bristles on tergites -> Wagneria? Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 01-02-2026 09:55
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19277 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I dont think you can assess the discal setae. Ockhams first hypothesis is Ramonda Theo |
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| Carnifex |
Posted on 01-02-2026 17:53
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Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 2018 Joined: 23.06.15 |
Fair enough
Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated. |
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