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Eupeodes luniger or E. corllae?
Jogvan F
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Posted on 09-12-2024 12:29
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Hi
I have a single specimen of this male species that I think is Eupeodes lapponicus. As this species is not reported from here (Faroe Islands) it would be great to get a second opinion. The only Eupeodes recorded here is E. corollae.

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Markings do not reach margin
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E. lapponicus's Vein R4+5 is strongly bent not only a little as in your picture.

Greetings from Switzerland
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Jogvan F
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Thanks "dipdip"
I was also thinking about that.
Any guess what this species might be. Which characters need to be highlighted?

Thanks
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Juergen Peters
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Jogvan F wrote:
Any guess what this species might be.

To my laic eyes it looks like a Eupeodes luniger male with these spots not reaching the tergite border.
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Jürgen

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Hi Jogvan, maybe you should try the key available here: https://web.archi...art_18.pdf

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Andrzej
Edited by Andrzej on 12-12-2024 19:24
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences
 
Jogvan F
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Thanks for reply Juergen and Andrew
I have the book of van Veen 2004 but I need experience as I need with the Heleomyzidae, Andrew Wink

I agree with E. luniger. Not only with the spots not reaching the margin but also the postocular orbit. Gets norrow towards vertex as seen on the attached photo.
So if everybody are ok, this will be corrected to Eupeodes luniger (a new species for the Faroe Islands)

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Jógvan F

(I don't know what happened with the photo, but it is ok when you open it)
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Hi,

Did you verify that it's not E. corollae?
The genitalia seem large and the yellow spots don't always reach the margins of the tergites, especially in males.

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Florian
 
Jogvan F
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Hi Florian
Thanks for the information on the spots (they are not in the key)
The hairs on the scutellum are both yellow and black which also should lead to E. corollae.
I also attach photo of genitalia. They are large, but are they large enough

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Hoirs on scutellum
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