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 Sylvicola cinctus or fenestralis? northern Norway
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| Geir79 |
Posted on 10-04-2012 21:51
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 689 Joined: 09.03.11 |
Is it possible to identify females of Sylvicola? Think this one is cinctus or fenestralis.. Size is approx. 5 mm. Photographed in Bodø, northern Norway. Date: 10.04.2012. Geir79 attached the following image:  [141.22Kb] |
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| Geir79 |
Posted on 10-04-2012 21:52
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 689 Joined: 09.03.11 |
Photo of wing:
Geir79 attached the following image:  [95.6Kb] |
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| Halvard Hatlen |
Posted on 10-04-2012 23:53
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Member Location: Batnfjorden, Norway Posts: 75 Joined: 29.10.11 |
Hello Geir  There is a key (Norway) here: Søli, G. E. 1992. Norwegian species of Sylvicola Harris, 1776 (Diptera, Anisopodidae). Fauna Norwegia B 39:2 s. 49-54 Download from: www.entomologi.no Halvard Hatlen Møre og Romsdal, NORWAY |
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| Gunnar M Kvifte |
Posted on 11-04-2012 00:26
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Member Location: Kassel, Germany Posts: 436 Joined: 18.08.09 |
An even better one can be found at http://online-keys.net/infusions/keys/keys_view.php?key_no=1. It is based on Søli's key, but contains further species; one of which (stackelbergi) recently was found in Norway. |
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| Geir79 |
Posted on 11-04-2012 10:44
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 689 Joined: 09.03.11 |
Thank you : I've already used the key for all the palaearctic species (to get to cinctus/fenestralis). I've checked the distance between the basis of veins M1-M2 and M2-M3 with my USB microscope, have I done it correctly? The ratio between M1-M2 and M2-M3 is 1,5 from my measure, so it is S. fenestralis? Geir79 attached the following image:  [111.4Kb] |
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| Auratus |
Posted on 11-04-2012 10:55
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Member Location: Edam - Netherlands Posts: 306 Joined: 24.05.10 |
Hello Geir, Cool you bring it up. Since that character is accompanied by a questionmark, i have always wondered if it is a valid one. Hope someone with the right knowledge will react to this... Edited by Auratus on 11-04-2012 10:56 Greetings, Jan |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 29-03-2016 17:50
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 Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Hi all, This is a female of Sylvicola sp. (fenestralis/cinctus); taking that character into account, should be S.cinctus
rafael_carbonell attached the following image:  [84.46Kb] |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 30-03-2016 07:50
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19259 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Auratus wrote: I think that might be for us to verify. Hello Geir, Cool you bring it up. Since that character is accompanied by a questionmark, i have always wondered if it is a valid one. Hope someone with the right knowledge will react to this... 
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| libor |
Posted on 30-03-2016 08:18
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Member Location: western Bohemia Posts: 1269 Joined: 30.05.09 |
None recent key does use this feature for ID. Genitalia in males and genital fork + hypoproct + cerci + hypogynal valves in females. Dissect more specimens of cinctus/fenestralis/zetterstedti and try to confirm this hypothesis. We will see, what your results show to us  Libor |
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but don't see the image in the post.