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Allantus cinctus? --> Allantus cf. cinctus
Reimund Ley
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Posted on 31-05-2024 13:31
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we found this 8-10mm wesp in
Germany, Northrhine-Westfalia, Herten, Halde Hoheward, altitude 100m, 1. 5. 2024

greetings


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any ideas, please
 
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Your idea is good, but the final evidence for the female Allantus cinctus is missing: the white band (cinctus) on the fifth tergite...
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Hello Eric,


thanks for your answer,
the best we can do is Allantus sp.?
Is this your idea too?


Greetings

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eklans
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Posted on 04-09-2024 12:08
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Hello Angelika/Reimund, I've compared your wasp with others on rosa and it's very likely, that yours is a female Allantus cinctus - I would store it with a small question mark. Maybe you see the white girdle if you look at the original photo. It could be a red girdle: A. rufocinctus.
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Reimund Ley
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Posted on 04-09-2024 13:33
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Hello Eric,


we made a close up and try to see that band
and marked it with an arrow,
if we are correct you mean this?


greetings


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No, that's near the scutellum.
I enclose images of a female on Rosa canina with arrows pointing to the white girdle on tergit 5 (+ male & larva).
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Posted on 04-09-2024 19:44
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Hello Eric,


thanks again for your help.
We thaught is is ok to call this wesp Allantus cf. cinctus.
with our fotos we could not get a 100% ID.


Greetings


Angelika/Reimund
 
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