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 Beautiful grey Psychodidae
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| pierred |
Posted on 16-05-2009 19:17
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 Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1413 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Hello everybody, I saw yesterday this beauty. About 4-5 mm, with two distinct black spots on the wings. Somebody suggested Pericoma canescens on our French forum. Does some of you confirm or infirm ths tentative identification? Thanks in advance. pierred attached the following image:  [93.74Kb] Pierre Duhem |
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| phil withers |
Posted on 17-05-2009 00:36
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08 |
I doubt canescens (which is very rare): might well be Pneumia trivialis. By the way, all psychodids are beautiful (I might be slightly biased !). |
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| pierred |
Posted on 17-05-2009 07:08
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Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1413 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Phil, Thanks for the pointer. And I'm not far of sharing your point of view about their beauty. Pneumia trivialis doesn't exist on Fauna europaea. The only trivialis in the Psychodidae is Satchelliella trivialis (Eaton 1893). Is that correct? Edited by pierred on 17-05-2009 07:15 Pierre Duhem |
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| phil withers |
Posted on 18-05-2009 13:03
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08 |
Same fly: revised generic placement. |
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| Gunnar M Kvifte |
Posted on 16-09-2009 16:25
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Member Location: Kassel, Germany Posts: 436 Joined: 18.08.09 |
Is Satchelliella synonymized or has the genus (sensu Vaillant) been split into Satchelliella and Pneumia? |
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| Louis Boumans |
Posted on 13-10-2009 10:53
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Member Location: NO Oslo Posts: 262 Joined: 09.06.04 |
I think this is likewise Clogmia albipunctata which has lost much of its hairs. In the picture the antennal segments appear barrel-shaped, esp the right antenna, but I wonder if this is not an artefact of the picture. Perhaps a close-up of the clearest antennal segments can help. |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 13-10-2009 13:56
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 Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1097 Joined: 02.01.08 |
They are too hard for my little camera, nice to see one photographed successfully. |
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| pierred |
Posted on 17-10-2009 18:42
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Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1413 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Louis, Louis Boumans wrote: Pehaps a close-up of the clearest antennal segments can help. This is the single picture I can show you. Gordon: Thanks for the compliments. This is the first time I get something I dare to show. Pierre Duhem |
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| Louis Boumans |
Posted on 27-12-2010 02:08
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Member Location: NO Oslo Posts: 262 Joined: 09.06.04 |
Googling for a picture of Pneumia trivialis, I come across this picture again. By now I've seen so many Clogmia albipuctata that I am convinced this picture shows one too. A very common moth fly. |
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| pierred |
Posted on 06-12-2011 11:41
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Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1413 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Louis, I'm answering very late, sorry. Thanks, Louis. I think you're nailing the coffin. Pierre Duhem |
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but don't see the image in the post.
