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 Ephydridae - Notiphila aquatica
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| hedy2411 |
Posted on 06-07-2010 09:58
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 Member Location: Zeist, Holland Posts: 5232 Joined: 20.11.09 |
Can anyone tell the name of this fly...? Thanks Hedy hedy2411 attached the following image:  [82.84Kb] Edited by hedy2411 on 08-09-2011 16:47 |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 06-07-2010 10:53
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19259 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Ephydridae
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 06-07-2010 11:16
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19259 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Compares favourably to http://www.dipter...to_id=3883, Notiphila brunnipes, but might be another Notiphila species.
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| hedy2411 |
Posted on 07-07-2010 20:20
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Member Location: Zeist, Holland Posts: 5232 Joined: 20.11.09 |
Hello Paul, The frontpart seems to be much the same! So will this be a Notiphila cf brunnipes or Notiphila spec.? Greetings, Hedy |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 07-07-2010 21:37
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19259 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I hope Tony Irwin will tell. 
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 08-07-2010 21:08
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7194 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Cranefly is better than me on these species. Change thread title to "Notiphila species?" and she will probably pick it up.
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| Cranefly |
Posted on 11-07-2010 19:04
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Member Location: Shachovskaya Posts: 646 Joined: 17.09.08 |
Notiphila aquiatica Becker is the most probable: antennae yellow with apical segment darkened, cheeks narrow, scutum brown, all tibiae black. Notiphila brunipes has antennae with 2 basal segments black and the apical segment significantly darkened. 
Edited by Cranefly on 11-07-2010 19:05 |
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| hedy2411 |
Posted on 25-07-2010 22:11
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Member Location: Zeist, Holland Posts: 5232 Joined: 20.11.09 |
Paul, Tony and Cranefly, I'm very happy with this Notiphila aquatica! Thanks for your reactions! Greetings, Hedy Edited by hedy2411 on 10-09-2011 19:59 |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 26-07-2010 09:07
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19259 Joined: 11.05.04 |
aquatica rather than aquiatica?
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| Cranefly |
Posted on 27-07-2010 05:10
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Member Location: Shachovskaya Posts: 646 Joined: 17.09.08 |
Notiphila aquatica Becker, 1896, of course.  |
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| nielsyese |
Posted on 13-09-2011 20:41
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 Member Location: Yerseke, NL Posts: 2345 Joined: 13.02.09 |
Cranefly, afaik Notiphila aquatica is not recorded from the Netherlands (correct me if I'm wrong!) Can similar species like N. riparia be excluded from this picture? |
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| Cranefly |
Posted on 14-09-2011 11:16
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Member Location: Shachovskaya Posts: 646 Joined: 17.09.08 |
I don't know any work where N.aquatica is registered in Netherlands. If this fly has the following characters: antennae yellow with darkenes apical segment, face with several (2) strong setae (not with many weak thin hairs), all tibia black (sometimes the most apices may be yellowish), scutum brown without spots. Cheeks narrow. Notiphila aquatica. |
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| Cranefly |
Posted on 14-09-2011 11:18
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Member Location: Shachovskaya Posts: 646 Joined: 17.09.08 |
P.S. Notiphila riparia has yellow tibia with dark band |
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| nielsyese |
Posted on 14-09-2011 16:27
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Member Location: Yerseke, NL Posts: 2345 Joined: 13.02.09 |
Thanks for your reaction, I'm convinced. I know N. riparia has yellow tibiae, but I did not know about a dark band. There is clearly no dark band here in the picture so then N. aquatica should be ok. |
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| jhstuke |
Posted on 16-09-2011 07:18
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Member Location: Leer, Germany Posts: 147 Joined: 06.06.07 |
There is no trustable record of Notiohila aquatic from germany and all specimens I have seen from Europe so far turned out to be wrongly identified. The species can perhaps only be identified with characters of the male post abdomen. I don not think that a species diagnosis is possible with a photo. Jens-Hermann |
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| Cranefly |
Posted on 18-09-2011 12:16
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Member Location: Shachovskaya Posts: 646 Joined: 17.09.08 |
However not so many species of Notiphila with all black tibiae. So, in this case, possible |
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| hedy2411 |
Posted on 19-09-2011 21:06
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Member Location: Zeist, Holland Posts: 5232 Joined: 20.11.09 |
I'm enjoying this conversations and to add to confusion or to gain certainty I may add this picture... There were a few of them and in due time I will add some to our Dutch species list. Thanks to all for your contribution!! Regards, Hedy hedy2411 attached the following image:  [84.2Kb] Edited by hedy2411 on 19-09-2011 21:07 |
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