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Eliozeta or Clytiomyia?
Rui Andrade
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What is possible to say about it?

location: Viana do Castelo, Portugal
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I'd say Eliozeta. Hairs on the abdomen are recumbent, no erect as it happens with Clytiomyia.
Wait for Theo, Chris, Jaako, neprisi.... Grin
 
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How many sternopleurals/katepisternals does it have?

269. 3 st (but the lower sometimes hardly differentiated from the hairs). Males: hairs of the tergites in their centre - as on the sides - prone; if a few hairs are raised, then these remain considerably shorter than 0.5 of the marginal bristles; tergite 6 bare or with hairs on its dorsal area. Females: parafrontalia outside the frontal bristles with hairs............Eliozeta (page 66)
- 2 st. Males: hairs on the middle of the tergites raised, the longest hairs at least as long as 0.5 the marginal bristles; tergite 6 always with hairs on its dorsal area. Females: parafrontalia outside the frontal bristles bare...............Clytiomya [continua Panz.]


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I hope you are right, I've never seen EliozetaSmile.
 
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ChrisR wrote:
How many sternopleurals/katepisternals does it have?

269. 3 st (but the lower sometimes hardly differentiated from the hairs). Males: hairs of the tergites in their centre - as on the sides - prone; if a few hairs are raised, then these remain considerably shorter than 0.5 of the marginal bristles; tergite 6 bare or with hairs on its dorsal area. Females: parafrontalia outside the frontal bristles with hairs............Eliozeta (page 66)
- 2 st. Males: hairs on the middle of the tergites raised, the longest hairs at least as long as 0.5 the marginal bristles; tergite 6 always with hairs on its dorsal area. Females: parafrontalia outside the frontal bristles bare...............Clytiomya [continua Panz.]


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Humm, I'll check.
 
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yes. I tried to count the katapisternal setae... but it is not possible here. Sad
 
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I see only two katepisternals, despite the legs being in a position that makes it difficult to see very well. I think that there isn't a lower bristle.
 
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The third antennal segment is elongated and the arista strongly crassate, therefore, it is pellucens, and thus Eliozeta.
This is always the first thing to check, when in doubt !

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Thank you very much Theo, this is my first EliozetaGrin
 
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Yesterday I saw two in Serra da Estrela. Wink
 
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