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 Wingless Tipulid: Chionea lutescens?
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 16-12-2007 18:18
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13730 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello! Found today at -1 ?C under a piece of bark on the ground near forest (Ostwestfalen/Germany), length about 4-5 mm. Is it Chionea lutescens? Portrait of the head: http://www.foto-u...ens_W4.jpg Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [57.52Kb] Edited by Juergen Peters on 16-12-2007 18:19 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 16-12-2007 18:20
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13730 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Second picture.
Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [69.67Kb] Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 16-12-2007 18:21
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13730 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Third picture.
Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [50.1Kb] Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 16-12-2007 18:39
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18590 Joined: 21.07.04 |
It's Chionea. There are several species, with which I can't help you. Great find! Theo |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 16-12-2007 19:09
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13730 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Zeegers wrote: It's Chionea. There are several species, with which I can't help you. Thanks, Theo! (BTW: I should have written "wingless Limoniid".) According to "Entomofauna germanica" there are three Chionea species in Germany: C. alpica (only in Alps or other montane habitats as the name indicates??), C. belgica and C. lutescens. In my "Kosmos Insektenf?hrer" belgica is described as "dark brown" and the one on the photo there is indeed much darker than mine. So I hoped, that species and C. alpica - because of its distribution - could perhaps be excluded... 
Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 17-12-2007 22:58
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7196 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Great pictures, J?rgen! Can we have one of these in the gallery? 
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 17-12-2007 23:35
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13730 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Tony! Tony Irwin wrote: Great pictures, J?rgen! Can we have one of these in the gallery? Thanks! I will upload one or two (although I find, they are not so good). I think, better with a 'cf.' in the middle (or an 'sp.'?). Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 18-12-2007 17:46
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 Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
Hello Juergen, I showed the picture to Oosterbroek, and he said it is Chionea belgica after all. C. lutescens has more sturdy bristles on it's legs! Btw, the other name is Chionea alpina, not alpica! greetings, Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 18-12-2007 19:36
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13730 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Gerard! Gerard Pennards wrote: I showed the picture to Oosterbroek, and he said it is Chionea belgica after all. C. lutescens has more sturdy bristles on it's legs! Many thanks! Then Paul will have to rename it, if he takes my pics to the gallery. I had uploaded them as Chionea cf. lutescens. Btw, the other name is Chionea alpina, not alpica! Right, I must have read too fast... 
Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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