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 Tachinidae (canaries) -> Nyctia lugubris (Sarcophagidae)
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| Michael Becker |
Posted on 23-12-2009 05:56
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Member Location: Germany, Neuss Posts: 1268 Joined: 16.01.07 |
Hello, this ~7mm tachinidae (or Rhinophoridae?) is from april from Tenerife. Does someone have an idea what it could be? Thanks, Michael Michael Becker attached the following image:  [38.64Kb] Edited by Michael Becker on 23-12-2009 19:29 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 23-12-2009 08:47
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18532 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Neither. It is Nyctia, Sarcophagidae (very often mistaken for a Rhinophorid, even by Seguy, so you are in good company !) No idea what they have on Tenerife, in Europe only N. halterata. Theo |
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| paqui |
Posted on 23-12-2009 18:09
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Member Location: Valencia (spain) Posts: 816 Joined: 02.09.05 |
Hello, N. lugubris = morio was recorded in Canarias, but I have no data of this species (synonimy?). Nice fly anyway 
Edited by paqui on 23-12-2009 18:09 |
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| Michael Becker |
Posted on 23-12-2009 19:28
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Member Location: Germany, Neuss Posts: 1268 Joined: 16.01.07 |
Hello Theo, hello Paqui, thanks for your answers. If I look in the checklists for the canary islands, there is always the name Nyctia lugubris used. So I assume this is the correct name. I see that the species is still not in the gallery... Greetings, Michael |
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| paqui |
Posted on 24-12-2009 20:43
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Member Location: Valencia (spain) Posts: 816 Joined: 02.09.05 |
Hello Michael, Iīve looked at Fauna Europaea and it seems to be in Portugal, France, Cyprus, Malta and Sicily too, I added the synonym in case it could help, but I havenīt found any description of it, so better wait for Theoīs opinion Regards |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 25-12-2009 10:35
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18532 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I don't have an opinion on this matter, other than that Nyctia halterata is an extremely variable species. Rohdendorf in Lindner gives only one Nyctia species with the following remark "Remark by B. Herting: Specimens from the Mediterrean show, contrary to the description above, a clear, grey-white dusting, in males especially at the anterior margin of tergite 5, in females more on the mesonotum (shoulders and region of DC). Topcell always stalked. It remains an open question, whether we are dealing with a separate species." OF course, this is written years ago. Theo |
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| Michael Becker |
Posted on 25-12-2009 16:25
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Member Location: Germany, Neuss Posts: 1268 Joined: 16.01.07 |
Thank you Theo for the explanation. I think I will let it in a Nyctia lugubris file on my hard disk so long it is listed as own species, or someone knows better. And I will let it to Paul, whether he adds the picture to the gallery or not. Greeting, Michael |
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but don't see the image in the post.