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Clusiidae or Chloropidae ? Chamaepsila ephippium
Roy
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Posted on 06-01-2022 15:31
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Hello,
this fly found in the dike of a polder pose to me a problem of famly.Size : 3 mm.
At Barbâtre- west of France-07 10 2021

The appearance of the head seems curious but I can say if it is due to the examination or if it is natural.

Thanks by advance for its identification.

Best regards

Christian

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos294/big/Chloropidae-Barbatre-RNN%20Sebastopol-07%2010%202021_00001.jpg
roy : France : Barbâtre : 85630 : 07/10/2021
Altitude : 0 m - Taille : 3 mm.
Réf. : 294888

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos294/big/Chloropidae%20ad%20x%204-Barbatre-RNN%20Sebastopol-07%2010%202021_00001.jpg
roy : France : Barbâtre : 85630 : 07/10/2021
Altitude : 0 m - Taille : 3 mm.
Réf. : 294889

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos294/big/Chloropidae%20te%20th%20x%204-Barbatre-RNN%20Sebastopol-07%2010%202021_00001.jpg
roy : France : Barbâtre : 85630 : 07/10/2021
Altitude : 0 m - Taille : 3 mm.
Réf. : 294890
Edited by Roy on 20-12-2023 18:24
 
Tony Irwin
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It seems to have a well-developed anal vein, so I don't think Chloropidae. May be worth trying Psilidae?
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Roy
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Posted on 06-01-2022 18:20
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Ah ok.

We will try this family.

Thank you very much.

Best regards.

Christian
 
Roy
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Posted on 07-01-2022 15:08
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Hello,
Chamaepsila unilineata was suggested yesterday on the "forum du monde des insectes" by Eugène Vdb.

Is it good ?

Best regards.

Christian
 
Tony Irwin
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Posted on 07-01-2022 21:03
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Yes, that seems the most likely species from these photos.
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Roy
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Thank you very much.

Best regards.

Christian
 
Jocelyn Claude
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Posted on 21-09-2022 16:30
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Hi, After examining this specimen under my bino, it is not possible that it is Chamaepsila unilineatas. The specimen has in fact one pair of dc (not two). There is a second, shorter dc (not a pair). It is not a true dc which has a 'button' at its birth. By studying the specimen in hand I can confirm that there is only one true pair of dc.
In the other hand the postpedicels are black (not yellow). If one follows the keys, one would logically end up with Chamaepsila ephippium (Zetterstedt, 1847). Examination of the terminala confirms this (picture here:https://www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/view.php?ref=307410).
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Roy
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Posted on 01-01-2024 14:27
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Hello,
For several days I have been trying to send you a photo of Chamaepsila ephippium for the Gallery but I can't manage it.

I did read the instructions (submit a photo)

My title is: Chamaepsila ephippium male, dét. J Claude.
The size of the selected photo is less than 200 kb.
And I've put the family Psilidae.
I didn't put anything in the description, though, because I don't know what to put, is it essential?
The software replies: "complete the form" and then I get stuck.

Thanks for your help.

Christian
Edited by Roy on 01-01-2024 14:28
 
Roy
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Posted on 05-01-2024 17:54
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Hello,
it's a pity because I have several species of diptera that you don't have in your gallery (including Chamaepsila ephippium) and that could complete it.

Too bad.

Best regards

Christian
 
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