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| Carnota |
Posted on 20-11-2007 19:30
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 Member Location: Galicia (Spain) Posts: 170 Joined: 29.05.06 |
Galicia (NW Spain), deciduous forest, 1000m, july 2007, 8mm. Please, any comment? Carnota attached the following image:  [82.08Kb] |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 20-11-2007 20:23
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19254 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Could be Rhymosia but I'd need to have the specimen to be certain.
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| Carnota |
Posted on 21-11-2007 09:16
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Member Location: Galicia (Spain) Posts: 170 Joined: 29.05.06 |
Thank you again, Paul. |
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| David Gibbs |
Posted on 21-11-2007 10:31
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 Member Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 833 Joined: 17.06.06 |
Rymosia does not look right to me, sc terminating in R1(ending free in Rymosia). i would suggest Allodiopsis sl. (if tips of frork veins with setulae) or Brevicornu (if these veins bare) but Tarnania and Allodia also possible. Check tips of fork veins for setulae then dissect and photo genitalia, that will probably sort it out. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 21-11-2007 11:27
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19254 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I thought that most of the genera you mentioned have species smaller than 8 mm, though I am not certain about Tarnania. I hope I can examine the actual specimen soon. 
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| David Gibbs |
Posted on 21-11-2007 12:39
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Member Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 833 Joined: 17.06.06 |
for Brevicornu and Allodia i would agree, none of my specimens are large. Tarnania can be large but the single species i have does not look like the photo. However, Allodiopsis rustica (Edwards, 1941) is a large species and looks very like the photo. In GB this is the only one of the three species that is at all frequent. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 21-11-2007 12:47
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19254 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I have not checked against my specimen of Allodiopsis but I thought the genitalia were smaller. Still, you might be right.
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| Carnota |
Posted on 21-11-2007 21:44
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Member Location: Galicia (Spain) Posts: 170 Joined: 29.05.06 |
Thank you very mutch, Paul and David. I can see small setula in the places marked red, in the rest the veins are bare: Carnota attached the following image:  [30.09Kb] |
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| Carnota |
Posted on 21-11-2007 21:47
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Member Location: Galicia (Spain) Posts: 170 Joined: 29.05.06 |
A small zone of the wing
Carnota attached the following image:  [30.92Kb] |
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| Carnota |
Posted on 21-11-2007 21:51
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Member Location: Galicia (Spain) Posts: 170 Joined: 29.05.06 |
And a bad photo of the genitalia in place. I leave the extraction to Paul, I am not confident with my technique. Carnota attached the following image:  [32.99Kb] |
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| David Gibbs |
Posted on 22-11-2007 10:18
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Member Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 833 Joined: 17.06.06 |
the genitalia confirm Allodiopsis s.s. and i would say 95% rustica. However, from this view i cannot rule out domestica, need very good ventral view of genitalia showing details of structure between the black sclerotized lobes. |
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