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Black Chloropidae (?) - ID? --> something like Lipara rufitarsis
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Northern Germany, Schleswig-Holstein, Neu-Lankau near Mölln, right by the Elbe-Lübeck-Canel, meadow packed up with sawn timber for open fire; Outsidephotos kuv, 2nd of July 2019. Please help to get the ID.
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Hi,

I think, Madiza glabra (Milichiidae).
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Thank you very much Jürgen Smile.
Greetings Kuv
 
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Hi kuv & Jürgen,

I disagree and think kuv has the right family: Chloropidae.
If you measure from wing base to vein R2+3 and where vein R1 ends in the costa relative to that. Vein R1 ends at about halfway in the costa here. It ends about 1/3 in Madiza sp. The distance between vein R1 and the costa, where they are parralel in the wing, are far wider here than in Madiza. The profile of the head, laterally is also different. Here the back of the head is straight, in Madiza the gena cut forward about halfway. And Madiza are either shining black or grey pollinose, this fly is matt black.

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Lipara rufitarsis?
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Something like that, yes.
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Thank you Ectemnius Smile, thank you Tony Smile and thank you Paul Smile.
So the result is "something like Lipara rufitarsis (Chloropidae)".
Greetings Kuv
 
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