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Black Chloropidae (?) - ID? --> something like Lipara rufitarsis
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kuv |
Posted on 03-02-2021 16:19
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3691 Joined: 30.04.10 |
Northern Germany, Schleswig-Holstein, Neu-Lankau near Mölln, right by the Elbe-Lübeck-Canel, meadow packed up with sawn timber for open fire; Outsidephotos kuv, 2nd of July 2019. Please help to get the ID. Kuv kuv attached the following image: [109.44Kb] Edited by kuv on 05-02-2021 12:18 |
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kuv |
Posted on 03-02-2021 16:20
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3691 Joined: 30.04.10 |
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kuv |
Posted on 03-02-2021 16:20
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3691 Joined: 30.04.10 |
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kuv |
Posted on 03-02-2021 16:21
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3691 Joined: 30.04.10 |
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Juergen Peters |
Posted on 03-02-2021 18:08
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13957 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hi, I think, Madiza glabra (Milichiidae). Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
kuv |
Posted on 03-02-2021 18:49
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3691 Joined: 30.04.10 |
Thank you very much Jürgen . Greetings Kuv |
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Ectemnius |
Posted on 04-02-2021 12:09
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 846 Joined: 22.11.11 |
Hi kuv & Jürgen, I disagree and think kuv has the right family: Chloropidae. If you measure from wing base to vein R2+3 and where vein R1 ends in the costa relative to that. Vein R1 ends at about halfway in the costa here. It ends about 1/3 in Madiza sp. The distance between vein R1 and the costa, where they are parralel in the wing, are far wider here than in Madiza. The profile of the head, laterally is also different. Here the back of the head is straight, in Madiza the gena cut forward about halfway. And Madiza are either shining black or grey pollinose, this fly is matt black. Kind regards, Ectemnius |
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Tony Irwin |
Posted on 04-02-2021 13:25
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7236 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Lipara rufitarsis?
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Paul Beuk |
Posted on 05-02-2021 08:10
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19375 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Something like that, yes.
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kuv |
Posted on 05-02-2021 12:17
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3691 Joined: 30.04.10 |
Thank you Ectemnius , thank you Tony and thank you Paul . So the result is "something like Lipara rufitarsis (Chloropidae)". Greetings Kuv |
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