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 Neomochtherus geniculatus? Tolmerus cowini or cingulatus
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| parnassius |
Posted on 25-01-2021 22:55
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I photographed this Asilidae near the little village of Condove in Susa Valley, Piedmont (Italy) at 350 mt above sea level, on September 9th, 2018. Could it be Neomochtherus geniculatus?
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| parnassius |
Posted on 25-01-2021 22:57
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 26-01-2021 00:30
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This is not N. geniculatus..... first impression would be Tolmerus cingulatus or cowini, but that doesn't feel right too.
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| parnassius |
Posted on 27-01-2021 22:34
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Ok thanks! So it is not possible to determine even the genus, it isn't? |
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| piros |
Posted on 28-01-2021 10:38
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1817 Joined: 04.01.12 |
Just asking: what's wrong with Tolmerus cowini? |
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| parnassius |
Posted on 14-03-2021 19:08
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piros wrote: Just asking: what's wrong with Tolmerus cowini? I'm also interested about it  |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 17-03-2021 18:08
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Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2225 Joined: 18.05.10 |
In the first place it is very rare and not known from Italy. Sometimes cingulatus can be somewhat darker. To be sure a look at the femora in good light would help.
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| parnassius |
Posted on 19-03-2021 23:51
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Great thanks! Unfortunately these are the only photos I have, I've tried to crop the first one but I'm afraid it is useless...
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 20-03-2021 16:27
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Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2225 Joined: 18.05.10 |
This is what a true cowini looks like: https://waarneming.nl/observation/69895445/ So, this could be it, but I would keep a cf and look for more specimens. Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| parnassius |
Posted on 20-03-2021 19:50
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Great thanks! Apart from cingulatus and cowini, are there other Tolmerus species that could be possible? |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 22-03-2021 18:03
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Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2225 Joined: 18.05.10 |
I don't think so......
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| parnassius |
Posted on 22-03-2021 23:58
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Ok, great thanks! |
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