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 Psilidae > Chamaepsila nigricornis. OK!
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 17-11-2020 12:40
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 Member Location: Motril (Granada) España Posts: 2392 Joined: 02.09.09 |
Photograph taken on 17 /11 / 2020, trap of light for moths placed in house of the urban center of Motril, Granada, Spain Immediate area of the Mediterranean coast. Apparent size with wings, about 4,00 mm Thanks in advance for any help! Maherjos attached the following image:  [71.66Kb] Edited by Maherjos on 29-11-2020 20:11 |
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 17-11-2020 12:42
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Member Location: Motril (Granada) España Posts: 2392 Joined: 02.09.09 |
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| eklans |
Posted on 17-11-2020 17:19
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4277 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Hi, I think it could be a Chamaepsila sp. (Psilidae). Greetings, Eric |
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 17-11-2020 17:39
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Member Location: Motril (Granada) España Posts: 2392 Joined: 02.09.09 |
eklans wrote: Hi, I think it could be a Chamaepsila sp. (Psilidae). Greetings, Eric Thank you very much for your help. With your proposal I will edit the title to see if they confirm it. I will also try to take photos in more detail to help advance identification. Best regards from southern Spain. José Marín |
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 18-11-2020 09:45
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Member Location: Motril (Granada) España Posts: 2392 Joined: 02.09.09 |
New photo Clicking increases to 1200 dpi Maherjos attached the following image:  [112.97Kb] Edited by Maherjos on 18-11-2020 09:46 |
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| eklans |
Posted on 18-11-2020 11:45
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4277 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Hi José, it closely resembles what I identified as C. rosae. But unfortunately I do can't tell for sure which characters tell the species apart. Greetings from Northern Bavaria, Eric |
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| eklans |
Posted on 18-11-2020 12:35
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4277 Joined: 11.11.18 |
And finally with this key (in german): Identification Key of the Westpalaearctic Species of Chamaepsila (Diptera: Psilidae), Wang 1988: 2 scutellar bristles, 2 dorsocentrals, 3 verticals, thorax all black OK. We cannot see the underside of the fore femora: Fore femur with row of longer hairs ventrally? = nigricornis else rosae Our flies seem to be C. nigricornis or rosae. Greetings, Eric |
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 20-11-2020 11:01
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Member Location: Motril (Granada) España Posts: 2392 Joined: 02.09.09 |
eklans wrote: And finally with this key (in german): Identification Key of the Westpalaearctic Species of Chamaepsila (Diptera: Psilidae), Wang 1988: 2 scutellar bristles, 2 dorsocentrals, 3 verticals, thorax all black OK. We cannot see the underside of the fore femora: Fore femur with row of longer hairs ventrally? = nigricornis else rosae Our flies seem to be C. nigricornis or rosae. Greetings, Eric I am very grateful for your interest and the help you give me to identify this little dipteran. I add two more photographs to try to show the details that distinguish the two Chamaepsila species that are in doubt. I also comment that I have the collected specimen and that for me it is of no more interest than the photos that I can take of it. If you may have any interest or curiosity in receiving the insect, I can send it to you by post in a small eppendorg with 70% alcohol or 10% formaldehyde. Kind regards, Jose Marin Clicking on the photo increases its size to 1200 dpi Maherjos attached the following image:  [128.39Kb] |
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 20-11-2020 11:02
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Member Location: Motril (Granada) España Posts: 2392 Joined: 02.09.09 |
Clicking on the photo increases its size to 1200 dpi
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 20-11-2020 13:54
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
You have my address... 
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| eklans |
Posted on 20-11-2020 14:53
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4277 Joined: 11.11.18 |
That's a very good idea and I'm looking very forward to the result. Greetings, Eric |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 29-11-2020 19:14
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Well, here is the result, after examination of the genitalia: Chamaepsila nigricornis. 
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 29-11-2020 20:10
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Member Location: Motril (Granada) España Posts: 2392 Joined: 02.09.09 |
Paul Beuk wrote: Well, here is the result, after examination of the genitalia: Chamaepsila nigricornis. Paul, Very grateful for your help.  Kind regards from the South of Spain José Marín |
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