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 Dinera grisescens? ==> Phaonia angelicae vs. errans?
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| ZiUser |
Posted on 01-11-2020 12:11
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Member Location: Birkweiler, South Palatina (Germany) Posts: 42 Joined: 06.08.17 |
This gray Tachinidae with orange legs I found yesterday 31.10.2020 in the vineyards of south Palatina / Germany. May be Dinera grisescens? ZiUser attached the following image:  [233.98Kb] Edited by ZiUser on 01-11-2020 15:22 Thanks for your Help, Rainer |
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| ZiUser |
Posted on 01-11-2020 12:13
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Member Location: Birkweiler, South Palatina (Germany) Posts: 42 Joined: 06.08.17 |
Here an additional Photo - hope it helps to determine.
ZiUser attached the following image:  [290.84Kb] Thanks for your Help, Rainer |
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| eklans |
Posted on 01-11-2020 12:31
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3405 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Hi Rainer, it's one of the Muscidae - a Phaonia, I think. Greetings, Eric Edited by eklans on 01-11-2020 12:31 |
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| ZiUser |
Posted on 01-11-2020 14:29
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Member Location: Birkweiler, South Palatina (Germany) Posts: 42 Joined: 06.08.17 |
Hi Eric, thanks for your revision and note to the genus Phaonia, its quiet better. The lightly orange legs suggest me to Phaonia valida, or may be there are other possibilities too? Thanks for your Help, Rainer |
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| eklans |
Posted on 01-11-2020 14:51
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3405 Joined: 11.11.18 |
P. valida has 2 ac postsutural and the scutellum is red apically - it could be P. angelicae, but unfortunately I'm not sure. Greetings, Eric |
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| ZiUser |
Posted on 01-11-2020 15:13
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Member Location: Birkweiler, South Palatina (Germany) Posts: 42 Joined: 06.08.17 |
Thank you Eric, I've compared the pictures in the gallery, the red apically scutellum on Ph. validata I've seen on some pics, you are right, this couldn't it be. But I couldn't find an angelicae with such orange legs, what about P. errans?
Thanks for your Help, Rainer |
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| eklans |
Posted on 01-11-2020 16:15
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3405 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Phaonia is really a difficult one - errans should have long haired eyes (and I could not find one yet). Eric |
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| ZiUser |
Posted on 01-11-2020 16:42
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Member Location: Birkweiler, South Palatina (Germany) Posts: 42 Joined: 06.08.17 |
OK, see the clipped eyes, the hairs are around the eyes, not direct at the eyes.
ZiUser attached the following image:  [272.91Kb] Thanks for your Help, Rainer |
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but don't see the image in the post.
