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 Eccoptomera -> E. longiseta
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| Carnifex |
Posted on 19-10-2020 22:23
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 Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1920 Joined: 23.06.15 |
Is this Eccoptomera filata? If I understood correctly, E. longiseta should have a red-brown third antennal segment, which I don't see here, so I went for a different species. But there are other species I don't know how they look like. Vienna, mid October   This is the Austrian species list: Eccoptomera emarginata Eccoptomera filata Eccoptomera infuscata Eccoptomera longiseta Eccoptomera microps Eccoptomera obscura Eccoptomera ornata Eccoptomera pallescens Eccoptomera sanmartini Edited by Carnifex on 22-10-2020 21:20 Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated. |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 20-10-2020 00:24
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2372 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Yep! It should be E. longiseta  BTW (The material of "Suilia in winter" is finally in my hands..). dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| Carnifex |
Posted on 20-10-2020 09:21
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Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1920 Joined: 23.06.15 |
Andrzej wrote: The material of "Suilia in winter" is finally in my hands..). 
Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated. |
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| Carnifex |
Posted on 20-10-2020 09:27
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Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1920 Joined: 23.06.15 |
Coming back to this specimen, my ID is solely based on a 1932 paper, regarding the statement that longiseta has a 'red-brown 3rd antennal segment'. I would call the color here rather yellow or light-brown. In the gallery, both species seem to have darker antennae then my specimen, but don't know whether these are light effects. Any key for this genus available? Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated. |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 20-10-2020 13:51
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2372 Joined: 05.01.06 |
In seiner Monographie der Helomyziden Czerny (1924) schreibt: "Fühler entweder ganz rotgelb oder das dritte Glied in verschiedener Ausdehnung gebräunt"
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| Carnifex |
Posted on 22-10-2020 21:19
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Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1920 Joined: 23.06.15 |
Great, I now worked with his monography and used chaetotaxy instead of color descriptions. Can confirm E. longiseta.
Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated. |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 23-10-2020 14:05
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2372 Joined: 05.01.06 |
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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