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the day of Ptychopteridae
guenille
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Posted on 10-11-2007 17:49
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As unknow as Anthomyiidae I think but more beautiful. Sorry for bad picture but they are not so common
Can you say more than Ptychoptera ?
Thanks for help
edith
near paris, june 16th, ~15mm
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Louis Boumans
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Are you also a fan of John Wyndham's famous book?! (The Day of the Triffids)

Anyway, two species of Ptychopteridae are common, P. albimana and P. contaminata, and I think this one is neither. So, interesting.
I have a key of the British species by Stubbs, but I don't have time right now to study the key.



 
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Posted on 11-11-2007 23:33
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To me, this seems to be a tipulid with the name Dictenidia bimaculata.
Regards, Sundew
 
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Posted on 12-11-2007 08:06
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It seems to me that "Sundew" is completely right!
Jan Willem van Zuijlen
 
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The character to set this two groups apart lays in the number of anal veins. Tipulid has two anal veins while ptychopterid has only one anal vein. Here is a brief key for your info.
 
http://iz.carnegiemnh.org/cranefly
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Many many thanks Chen, too much difficult for me for this time but I will learn it when my english will be better.
 
Louis Boumans
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Ah, you're right! I didn't even look at the anal veins, a good example of 'tunnel vision'. Of course Ptychopteridae and Tipulidae are also quite different in size, well generally speaking.
 
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