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| GAREL Jean-Michel |
Posted on 21-07-2020 07:56
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Member Location: Posts: 224 Joined: 18.12.19 |
Hello, We were unable to characterize this species observed on july 13th in Burgondy (Yonne department, near the town of Sens). Observed on Heracleum sphondylium inflorescence (Apiacaea). In a first approach we look for Phasiinae with no success. The dark face of this species is surprising. Is-it possible to help me ? Many thanks ; sincerely yours. Jean-Michel Garel.  Jean-Michel GAREL : France : Brannay : 89150 : 13/07/2020 Altitude : NR - Taille : 8 mm Réf. : 263172  Jean-Michel GAREL : France : Brannay : 89150 : 13/07/2020 Altitude : NR - Taille : 8 mm Réf. : 263173 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 22-07-2020 12:18
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18529 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I agree, it llooks weird, I cannot place it for now. Theo |
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| GAREL Jean-Michel |
Posted on 22-07-2020 17:26
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Member Location: Posts: 224 Joined: 18.12.19 |
Thanks Theo for your interest. Jean-Michel Garel. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 23-07-2020 07:04
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18529 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Did you collect it ? It might be a Phasiinae- lookalike, but it is not Freraea, Rondania and it does not appear to be Dufouria, thought it might be one of those rare species Theo |
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| GAREL Jean-Michel |
Posted on 23-07-2020 10:18
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Member Location: Posts: 224 Joined: 18.12.19 |
Unfortunately, Theo, this specimen was not collected. It is very nice, if we can viewed this species as a rare Phasiinae. Many thanks, Jean-Michel Garel. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 23-07-2020 16:48
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18529 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Got it ! Male Chaetoptilia puella. So my previous post was close. Please submit for the gallery ! Theo |
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| evdb |
Posted on 23-07-2020 17:38
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 Member Location: France (Loiret) Posts: 1345 Joined: 05.12.11 |
You mean Chetoptilia puella I suppose ?
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| John Carr |
Posted on 23-07-2020 17:51
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 Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9847 Joined: 22.10.10 |
evdb wrote: You mean Chetoptilia puella I suppose ? Chetoptilia is one of Rondani's misspellings that the rules say should be kept. It should have been Chaetoptilia. |
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| evdb |
Posted on 23-07-2020 18:05
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Member Location: France (Loiret) Posts: 1345 Joined: 05.12.11 |
OK John, that's because I did not find it in FE, INPN nor ITIS Thanks Eugene |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 23-07-2020 19:36
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18529 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I always correct Rondani's misspellings (and any other obvious misspelling, but 80 % + are Rondani's). I find it highly unscientific to keep repeatings errors and mistakes for over one-and-a-half century. I am quite aware that the nomenclatoral police does not agree; in my opinion the Code is "badly in need of revision." Feel free to write Chetoptilia, if you want, as long as I can write Chaetoptilia. Theo |
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| evdb |
Posted on 23-07-2020 23:42
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Member Location: France (Loiret) Posts: 1345 Joined: 05.12.11 |
I understand... Thanks again Eugene |
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| GAREL Jean-Michel |
Posted on 24-07-2020 10:08
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Member Location: Posts: 224 Joined: 18.12.19 |
Theo, The 2 pictures are submitted for your gallery. Many thanks, yours sincerely, Jean-Michel Garel. |
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but don't see the image in the post.
