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Huebneria affinis, Tachinidae, Hungary, August 2007
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Another UFO.
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Another view.
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The head.
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Again, the apical scutellars are erect, combined with the doubling frontal setae suggests Huebneria affinis. Huebneria can be rather common in eastern Europe in my experience.


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Well I thought the apical scutellars are not erect in this fly. Most of the bristles are obvioulsy broken in this dead fly. But there are two very long bristles, that are far from being erect, and seem to be scutellar. Are those not the apical scutellars? But otherwise you'll be right.
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I found another batch of Huebneria images. This one nicely shows that the two large bristles are not the apical scuterllar bristles.

This thread shows the male of this species, which looks leaner than the female.
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Gabor, I'm lost. To me these clearly ARE the apical scutellar bristles.
They are, indeed, broken in the first, but complete in the last pic.

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So there are two long apical scutellar bristles, that are erect, and several other scutellar bristles that are even longer than the apical ones, but not erect. The second image was somewhat misleading, because it suggested that the very long non-erect bristles would be apical. But this must be optical illusion.
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Right, that's the way I see it. In the second pic, the apicals are broken.


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