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Asilidae blue one South of France Marseille
Ber13
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Posted on 30-05-2020 08:00
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I need big help for this one, Thank you

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Bernard Ginesy : France : Marseille : 13007 : 22/05/2020
Altitude : 99 m - Taille : 8 mm
Réf. : 258052

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Bernard Ginesy : France : Marseille : 13007 : 22/05/2020
Altitude : 99 m - Taille : 8 mm
Réf. : 258050
Edited by Ber13 on 30-05-2020 08:05
 
Chris Cohen
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I would guess Holopogon as the hind tibia appears to be thickened apically, but this particular species is also very similar to Eriopogon. I imagine Reinoud will have a better idea.

Great photos by the way!
Edited by Chris Cohen on 16-06-2020 21:56
 
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Thank you Chris Cohen, I have see a same one in the same place a week later, very blue...
 
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Reinoud please ?
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It seems to be a real Holopogon one that I've never seen before. In Engel 1930 I find the following description, please nor description : melaleucus Meigen (1820) Syst. Beschr.. 11, 281, 38 (D a s y p o g o n).
Weißwollig; Thorax weiß, mit schwarzen Streifen; Abdomen schwarz und weiß bandiert; Flügel hell.
Durchaus mit graulich weißer Wolle bekleidet. Untergesicht, Knebelbart und Stirne graulich weiß; letztere führt eine schwarze Längslinie (!!!). Thorax weißlich, mit 3 tiefschwarzen Streifen auf dem Rücken; die beiden äußeren vorne sehr verkürzt und mit der mittelsten, die bis zum Halse reicht, zusammengeflossen.

(!!!) Das 1. und 2. Segment des Abdomens tiefschwarz; das 3. auf der vorderen Hälfte weiß, auf der hinteren schwarz; das 4. ebenso, nur ist das Weiße breiter und nimmt 2/3 ein; die der folgenden Segmente grauweiß. p schwarz, weißwollig; t3 ein wenig keulenförmig. Schwinger gelb. Flügel hell.
Herr Baumhauer entdeckte diese Art auf dem Gebirgsrücken von Toulon (Meigen).
3 lin. Europa centr

Hope your German is fine :-) Pretty sure this is it
Greetings,

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Many thanks Reinoud and sorry for late answer.
(Deepl is my friend !)
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A big thank to you Reinoud, and Eugène also !
 
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