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Ephydridae -> Scathophila
Carnifex	#1 Posted on 04-04-2020 00:28
Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1863 Joined: 23.06.15	Hi, found indoors, Vienna (early April). Could it be Scatella palustris? Edited by Carnifex on 08-10-2021 05:20 Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated.


Tony Irwin	#2 Posted on 04-04-2020 09:29
Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7193 Joined: 19.11.04	The hairy face, single fronto-orbital bristle and the costa only extending to R4+5 all add up to Scatophila. Tony ---------- Tony Irwin


Carnifex	#3 Posted on 07-04-2020 08:19
Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1863 Joined: 23.06.15	Thanks Tony! I cannot find a key for the species, can you help out? Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated.


Tony Irwin	#4 Posted on 07-04-2020 09:26
Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7193 Joined: 19.11.04	I think your best option is a paper by Jens-Hermann Stuke (2010). Die Uferfliegen Niedersachsens und Bremens (Diptera: Ephydridae). Entomologische Zeitschrift, Stuttgart. 120: 171-189 and 195-222. [Scatophila is on pp.213-216]. If your specimen is a female, it may be more tricky. I think I have a copy I can send you. Edited by Tony Irwin on 07-04-2020 09:28 Tony ---------- Tony Irwin


Carnifex	#5 Posted on 07-04-2020 23:12
Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1863 Joined: 23.06.15	Using the key Tony provided, I reached tentatively S. caviceps. The scutellum appears to me dusted at the basis and at the tip. Edited by Carnifex on 29-09-2021 21:39 Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated.


Carnifex	#6 Posted on 29-09-2021 21:41
Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1863 Joined: 23.06.15	want to bring this old ID request back, adding an additional image: The costa seems to reach M, would this make this species Scatella instead of Scathophila? Edited by Carnifex on 30-09-2021 21:25 Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated.


Tony Irwin	#7 Posted on 30-09-2021 09:20
Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7193 Joined: 19.11.04	To me, the costa ends at (or just slightly beyond) R4+5 - the next section (to M) is very faint. Tony ---------- Tony Irwin


Carnifex	#8 Posted on 08-10-2021 05:19
Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1863 Joined: 23.06.15	Thanks Tony, good to get a confirmation again Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated.