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Thyreus bee
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Posted on 25-10-2007 10:03

Location: Israel
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Few days ago, Israel.

I first was mistaken to this it is a Syrphidae fly but after a good look found it is actually a wasp.
Can anyone ID?
zcuc attached the following image:

Edited by zcuc on 28-10-2007 01:38
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Posted on 25-10-2007 13:51
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I can't see clearly enough but if the hairs have branches then it is a bee Smile
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Posted on 25-10-2007 13:58
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Flattened tibia and metatarsa?... it's a bee. Apidae.
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Posted on 25-10-2007 17:49
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I'D say Apidae as well. Wink
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Posted on 25-10-2007 19:58
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Possibly genus Thyreus (?).
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Posted on 26-10-2007 01:26

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Thanks Juergen,
Looks like Thyreus Grin there is another similar genus named Melecta but this one looks more like Thyreus.
Edited by zcuc on 26-10-2007 01:27
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Posted on 26-10-2007 07:28
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The specimen looks like T. ramosus, drawn on page 342 of the 5th volume of Amiet et al. But there may be other species in the east-mediterranean region.
Pierre Duhem
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Posted on 28-10-2007 01:50

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hey pierred,
there are several known sp. in Israel:
Thyreus hyalinatus
Thyreus ramosellus
Thyreus ramosus
Thyreus tricuspis
Thyreus truncatus

According to map distribution I think also possible to find:
Thyreus affinis
Thyreus elegans
Thyreus histrionicus

ramosus indeed looks like mine, but I don't know the keys for the other species. Do you know which sp. from the list are for sure not the one in my phoho?
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Posted on 28-10-2007 10:02
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I still don't know how to use the key efficiently. I can't help you more on this.
Pierre Duhem
Christian Schmid-Egger
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Posted on 28-10-2007 10:54

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Thyreus is one of the 'diffult' genera, even for the few specialists.

Regards, Christian,
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