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Biblio marci / hortulanus
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Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 27-10-2005 18:18
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![]() Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
I catched 3 flies, but one escaped(!?). Do not know how but there are two left.., and I will bring them tomorrow to the lab (Theo Z.) regards, Robert heemskerk ![]() |
Andre |
Posted on 27-10-2005 18:34
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![]() Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
So you caught 2 flies? ![]() While you keep them (are they dead now? let them dry and keep them dry), maybe you can make some extreme close-ups for us, the viewers? Please make a very close picture of the spines of the frontal tibia. And please a picture where we can see the color of the legs and of the hairs on abdomen and thorax (a good picture from the side will do). ![]() Edited by Andre on 27-10-2005 18:34 |
Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 27-10-2005 18:55
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![]() Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
The size is less then 10mm, now I count 7-8mm and with my magnifying glass I see a lot of hair on the thorax, on the first legg I see one strong/long (end)spine which is coloured (brown/red). Today I made one picture which is a little bit better then the first one, it was difficult to find one today. I saw a lot of them flying (~100) Tomorrow I make another picture (I hope better) ![]() Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 27-10-2005 21:16 |
Laurens van der Leij |
Posted on 27-10-2005 21:40
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Member Location: Den Bosch - Netherlands Posts: 10 Joined: 20.07.04 |
Definitely a Bibio spec.! Probably B. lepidus or B. clavipes. Both are autumn species. |
Paul Beuk |
Posted on 27-10-2005 21:56
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IMO they may just as well be the same species...
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Zeegers |
Posted on 28-10-2005 07:51
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18858 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Congratulations again. I agree with Laurens: Bibio clavipes (or lepidus). IN agreement with my first ID. Theo Zeegers |
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Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 28-10-2005 11:23
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![]() Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
This is a picture with more details..![]() |
Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 28-10-2005 13:00
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![]() Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
another viewon the front leg. Legs seems to be black!, the long strong spine on the frontal leg looks a little red/braun. This afternoon I brought the fly to the ZMA-lab, Theo can tell more soon I think. regards Robert Heemskerk, ![]() Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 29-10-2005 14:13 |
Zeegers |
Posted on 30-10-2005 11:18
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18858 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Hi Robert, Your last posts removed all doubts: male Bibio clavipes. You can see * the terminal spine on tibia 1 (-> Bibio) * the typical slender base of femur 3 (-> clavipes or lepidus) * the stigma which does not enter the costal cell (9-> clavipes) Why are you so bothered about the black legs ? Legs are black in clavipes. Thanks Theo |
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