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Lonchaeidae [was Shining black fly in south-west France]
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Hello,

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Pierre Duhem : France : Saint-André-d'Allas : 24200 : 29/07/2008
Altitude : 270 m - Taille : 5-6 mm
Réf. : 235812

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Pierre Duhem : France : Saint-André-d'Allas : 24200 : 29/07/2008
Altitude : 270 m - Taille : 5-6 mm
Réf. : 235813

evdb pointed me to the Lauxaniidae, but I don't find such short yellowish wings.
More, The ptilinal suture is still rather open.
And what do you think about four ocelli ?

Thanks in advance for any help.
Edited by pierred on 21-07-2019 09:20
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I don't see dorsal preapical bristles on tibiae and I do see something black sticking out of the rear end. I think Tephritoidea.
 
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John,

Thanks. I had overseen the ovipositor.
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Lonchaeidae, thinking of Earomyia
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Thanks, Paul.
I didn't know this genus.
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According to FE and INPN, there is a single species in France, Earomyia bazini (Séguy, 1932).
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I think this is a Dasiops: lunula seems to be with setae, vibrissa present (although visible only on one side). And certainly there are more Earomyia species in France, just they are unrecorded.
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Thanks Jan.
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pierred wrote:
According to FE and INPN, there is a single species in France, Earomyia bazini (Séguy, 1932).
Apart from the fact that Jan could be right with his Dasiops (Earomyia and Dasiops are both relatively scarce here and I did not bother to dig up my key, sorry), do not put too much trust on the distribution of those genera in France as given by Faune Europaea.
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OK, Paul.
As always, nowadays, Fauna Europaea is only taken as an information source, not as a proof.
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It looks like a female Dasiops at this size most probably a female D. latifrons. The French Lonchaeidae were reviewed by Withers & MacGowan (2014) and the most up to date and accurate distribution maps can be found at Lonchaeidae online.

Dasiops latifrons map is at
http://lonchaeidae.myspecies.info/category/lonchaeidae-classification-and-species-info/lonchaeidae/dasiopiniae/dasiops/dasiops-latifro
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Thanks a lot, Iain.
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