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phasia (Italy)?
Dudy
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Posted on 23-06-2019 11:32
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Turin (Italy), october 2018
can it be a Phasia?
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Hello,

I would say, Ectophasia. But I'm not an expert.
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Juergen Peters wrote:
Hello,

I would say, Ectophasia. But I'm not an expert.


Cell r5 is closed in Phasia, open in Ectophasia.
 
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john excuses my ignorance, so is it an Ectophasia?
 
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It is not Ectophasia. Probably Phasia.
 
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Thanks!
the only species reported for Italy (www.faunaitalia.it) are:

Phasia (Phasia) Latreille, 1804

Phasia (Phasia) aurigera (Egger, 1860) (N)
Phasia (Phasia) aurulans Meigen, 1824 (N)
Phasia (Phasia) hemiptera (Fabricius, 1794) (N, S)
Phasia (Phasia) obesa (Fabricius, 1798) (N, S, Si)
Phasia (Phasia) subcoleoptrata (Linné, 1767) (N, Si)

Phasia (Hyalomya) Robineau-Desvoidy, 1830

Phasia (Hyalomya) pandellei (Dupuis, 1957) (N, S)
Phasia (Hyalomya) pusilla Meigen, 1824 (N, S)


In my opinion..
of these the only ones that look like us seem to be:
Phasia obesa and Phasia subcoleoptrata
 
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That is correct. ONe of those two.
Indication of size ?


Theo
 
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sorry, I do not know, because it is a photo that had sent me
 
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[quote]Zeegers wrote:
That is correct. ONe of those two.
Indication of size ?


there are no other ways to distinguish them?
what do you think it could be?
 
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There are many ways to distinguish the two, but the picture is not so good and I am not a magician.


Theo
 
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ok thanks!TumbsUp
 
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