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 Gaedia cf distincta, Tachinidae, Hungary, September, 2006
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| Xespok |
Posted on 06-10-2007 08:17
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
This fly was observed in a very special habitat, on a karst area. Is this also Carcelia sp? Can this be id-ed to species? Looks different than the species I usually find around my workplace. Xespok attached the following image:  [119.8Kb] Edited by Xespok on 07-10-2007 19:09 Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 06-10-2007 08:19
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Another view.
Xespok attached the following image:  [113.15Kb] Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 06-10-2007 08:20
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
A third shot of the same individual.
Xespok attached the following image:  [131.8Kb] Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 06-10-2007 10:09
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 Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7703 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Eye's not hairy (and not big enough) so it isn't Carcelia I think. The petiole on vein-m might help Theo though  |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 06-10-2007 11:25
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19133 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Oh no, this is Gaedia !! Look at the red abdominal tip and the bristlelike hairs on the Peleteria-spot . Theo |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 06-10-2007 11:35
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7703 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Ahh, yes - i missed those facial hair - very distinctive Another one I have never seen!!  |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 06-10-2007 18:06
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
I try to sort out the species. There are only three species, one of which has never been recorded from Hungary (hispanica). The descriptions of the remaining two species connexa and distincta do not seem to fit, the specimen looks kind of intermediate betwen connexa and distincta. It can not be connexa, because that species should have a partially orange abdomen, which is not seen in the photos (except the tip). Also the legs seem not to be partially yellow. It should also not be distincta, because the abdomen again does not have sufficient amount of orange, the palpi seem to be darker (though this is difficult to judge from photos) The images are more, but not entirely consistent with distincta, because the face seems to be 2x wide as the third segment of the antenna. Both species were recorded only a few times from Hungary. Distincta is known from lime stone areas like Bukk, and Mecsek mountains, which would also favore disctincta. This should be a female, am I right? Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 07-10-2007 08:40
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19133 Joined: 21.07.04 |
IT's a female. The orange colouration mentioned by Mesnil refers to the male. Mesnil is often notoriously sloppy in describing females. I wouldn't dare to come to a final conclusion, both are very similar. I agree that distincta fits best. Theo |
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