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Tachinidae, Wagneriini
Carnifex
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Posted on 28-03-2019 00:11
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Hi,
is it possible to ID this tachinid on species level? I guess it is Ramonda or another Wagneriini relative. Size: 6mm; Date: Mid March in Vienna

static.inaturalist.org/photos/33292547/original.jpeg
static.inaturalist.org/photos/33545715/original.jpg
static.inaturalist.org/photos/33545722/original.jpg

Cheers, Lorin
Edited by Carnifex on 09-04-2019 23:05
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Zeegers
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Posted on 28-03-2019 08:41
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Yes it is a Wagneriini.

First impression is Periscepsia (Ramonda, if you like) carbonaria.
I would need to have a good view on a humerus to be more sure.

Theo
Edited by Zeegers on 28-03-2019 08:41
 
Carnifex
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Posted on 28-03-2019 17:25
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Does this help? Also, what features are needed for distinction from similar species?

static.inaturalist.org/photos/33603883/original.jpg
static.inaturalist.org/photos/33603890/original.jpg
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Zeegers
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Posted on 28-03-2019 19:32
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I need to see the loaction of the bristles. But the basal one seems broken off ...

Theo
 
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Posted on 28-03-2019 20:35
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I can make a lateral image of the other side. Also, I got a second individual, have to figure out whether it is in fact the same species. Are you using the Tschorsnig key? There it is stated that Periscepsia starts to appear in Mid May....
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Zeegers
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Posted on 29-03-2019 19:33
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Weel, I’d look for yourself. I really can’t tell. Are there 2 or 3 or 4 bristles and are the basal three on a straight line or in a triangle.
From these pics, it seems that the left humerus differs from the right, probably bevause some are broken off ? You can check the pores.

Theo
 
Carnifex
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Posted on 09-04-2019 23:04
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I considered the Tschorsnig key and accordingly made some new photos.

- Outer verticals at least half the length of inner; long 3rd antennal segment and white hairs at the back of the head lead me to genus Wagneria.

static.inaturalist.org/photos/34461243/original.jpeg
static.inaturalist.org/photos/34461233/original.jpg

- Costal spine present and lack of discal bristles on tergites + hollowed tergite 2 (see arrows) results in W. cunctans.

static.inaturalist.org/photos/34461139/original.jpeg

Is the conclusion plausible?

Cheers, Lorin
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Zeegers
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Posted on 10-04-2019 07:40
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Thanks. Periscepsia carbonaria .

Theo
 
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Posted on 10-04-2019 17:50
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What about the color of the palps - shouldn't they be yellow in Periscepsia?
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Posted on 15-04-2019 22:09
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any more comments on this one?
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