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 Fannia pallitibia to confirm
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 01-10-2007 21:45
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Found today in a woodland. With my keys, I have identified it as Fannia pallitibia. Could you confirm ? Locality : Le Havre - France Date : Oct. 01 2007 Size : 6 mm (mesured) Stephane Lebrun attached the following image:  [171.4Kb] Stephane. |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 01-10-2007 21:46
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
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Stephane Lebrun attached the following image:  [189.58Kb] Edited by Stephane Lebrun on 01-10-2007 21:47 Stephane. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 02-10-2007 19:14
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9475 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Hi Stephane. Sems OK for me  Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 02-10-2007 19:21
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Thanks my friend. I have a little doubt because presut ac are biserial, and should be triserial. Stephane. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 02-10-2007 19:26
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9475 Joined: 24.05.05 |
I'm out of my specimens to compare, will do it Sunday. Here in Turkey I have Fannia krimensis with 3- instead of 2-serial ac (or 2- instead of 3-)  12 females without any male  Autumn...
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 08-10-2007 17:40
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9475 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Hi Stephane. I compared with 4 specimens of F.pallitibia I have (all females )2 spp. have biserial ac 2 spp. have 2,5-serial ac (two distinct rows and 1-2 additionl setae between. I think we use same source Rozkosny,Gregor, Pont. I think that usualy triserial means that biserial too. Abdomen enterely black, F.pruinosa - rare, so F.pallitibia, at least so far. Nikita By the way, my turkish (new for Turkey as well as another two collected - F.pusio and F.pauli) F.krimensis (=F.argentea) also has biserial ac instead of triserial according Rozkosny,Gregor, Pont. On the other hand we have in Moscow Zool museum a seria of 30 females of F.krimensis collected chrestomaticaly in Krim ( ) with also biserial ac! I have to add an important detail all flies have Det. label by Adrian Pont himself! So, I'm thinking should I disturb Maestro with this problem or regard it as Rozkosny,Gregor, Pont books error 
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 09-10-2007 20:20
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Nikita Vikhrev wrote: I think we use same source Rozkosny,Gregor, Pont. Yes, plus D'Assis Fonseca. In this last book, it is mentionned bi-serial for pallitibia. And, indeed, it is written "usualy". Thank you for the confirmation and your good advices.
Stephane. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 11-10-2007 13:47
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9475 Joined: 24.05.05 |
I've got message from Adrian Pont. Fannia krimensis Pont has biserial ac, it is en error in Rozkosny at all. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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