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 Tachinidae male (Bel) ?--> Cleonice callida male
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 19-12-2018 22:16
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 Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
Hello, An idea for this male with hairy eyes ? Belgium, Sourbrodt, 2018-05-08. Thanks Christine Christine Devillers attached the following image:  [223.86Kb] Edited by Christine Devillers on 21-12-2018 13:19 |
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 19-12-2018 22:16
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Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 19-12-2018 22:17
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Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 19-12-2018 22:17
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Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 20-12-2018 09:36
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18536 Joined: 21.07.04 |
This one puzzles me. First impression is Blepharomyia pagana, but the dark hiindmargins on tergites are lacking. These are lacking in B. angustifrons, which has a much narrower frons..... Theo |
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 20-12-2018 12:38
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Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
Thank you theo, I'd never seen Blepharomyia. On this post https://diptera.i...pid=131087 the dark hindmargins are more or less visible according to the angle of view (less visible on the photo 1 on dorsal vue than on photo 3 and 4). Don't you think it could be the same on my pictures: little or not visible on photos 1 and 2 in dorsal view, and more visible on photos 3 and 4 (maybe because I've taken the photos with flash) ? Christine |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 20-12-2018 13:10
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 Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9862 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Zeegers wrote: This one puzzles me. First impression is Blepharomyia pagana, but the dark hiindmargins on tergites are lacking. These are lacking in B. angustifrons, which has a much narrower frons..... Theo Are the scutellar bristles right for Blepharomyia? The more common arrangement in Dexiinae is 3 pairs with apicals long and crossed. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 20-12-2018 20:11
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18536 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I’m struggling to see the correct configuration of the scutellars. Somgood question. Theo |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 20-12-2018 20:15
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18536 Joined: 21.07.04 |
So, apical scutellar bristles are lacking ?? That would suggest Pelatachina tibialis. Theo |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 20-12-2018 20:18
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Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9862 Joined: 22.10.10 |
I see four pairs of strong scutellars, all divergent. Also, T1+2 with hardly any excavation and possibly with median discals. |
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 21-12-2018 09:57
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Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
Thanks Theo and John, and why not a male of Cleonice callida ? It looks like this one https://diptera.i...d_id=85479 and I've seen some Chrysomela populi at the same place. Christine Christine Devillers attached the following image:  [273.49Kb] |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 21-12-2018 10:09
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18536 Joined: 21.07.04 |
This crossed my mind several times. and it makes total sense, if the crossed apical scutellars are really lacking ! I totally misjudged this, apparently, I thought I saw small crossed apicals. Pretty rare species ! Theo |
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 21-12-2018 11:39
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Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
Thanks Theo, I don’t see crossed apical scutellars. Only strong apical divergent, and also strong sub-apical, lateral and basal scutellars. Here are some crops of the scutellar bristles. Are the anotations correct ? Christine Christine Devillers attached the following image:  [241.33Kb] |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 21-12-2018 12:26
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18536 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Cleonice caloida it is ! Theo |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 21-12-2018 12:26
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18536 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Cleonice callida it is Theo
Edited by Zeegers on 21-12-2018 12:27 |
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 21-12-2018 13:21
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Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
Thanks Theo Christine |
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but don't see the image in the post.
