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 Helina sp?
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| Philippe moniotte |
Posted on 14-10-2005 07:43
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 Member Location: Heron, Belgium Posts: 860 Joined: 14.10.05 |
Hello, all Can anyone confirm:infirm that this is indeed Helina sp ? Or better which one it is likely to be , if it is one at all ? http://users.skynet.be/fa213618/Helina%20sp.htm September 10th 2005, R?serve naturelle de Sclaigneaux (  Philippe  |
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| Christophe Grangier |
Posted on 14-10-2005 17:33
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Member Location: Isere (France) Posts: 147 Joined: 30.08.05 |
Hello Philippe Eh? it seems there's some members of Photentomo in here! Can you see my thread in date of August 31st 2005 with the same subject and a (of course) worse image. I've got no reply but it's seems to me that it be could be the same species. Thanks Christophe |
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| Philippe moniotte |
Posted on 14-10-2005 18:54
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Member Location: Heron, Belgium Posts: 860 Joined: 14.10.05 |
Indeed, Christophe, it looks very similar. For some reason , nobody seems over-keen to suggest an answer. Is it too easy or too difficult, I honestly don't know. Oh well.... Philippe http://users.skynet.be/fa213618 |
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| Christophe Grangier |
Posted on 14-10-2005 20:50
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Member Location: Isere (France) Posts: 147 Joined: 30.08.05 |
Maybe we are the only Helina professionals in the world.... |
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| Gordon Jar |
Posted on 16-10-2005 19:32
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Member Location: East Sussex, England Posts: 209 Joined: 09.10.05 |
Hi I also have been waiting to see if anyone identifies this fly. I have a photo ( taken in south east England ) of what I believe is the same species which I identified as a Muscidae 'Phaonia angelicae'. PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS AS EXPERT IDENTIFICATION. I have only just started out in this identification game, but you may wish to check it out. Gordon |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 16-10-2005 23:45
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9381 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Well, I'll try to tell my expirience from more than five month on this forum. My advise is to regard this forum as very usefull source, but not for all Diptera order. For example without Muscidae family, as well as without Tipulidae. Unfortunely experts DO TAKE THIS AS EXPERT IDENTIFICATION. Or fortunely, as if we get identificationthan it is realy EXPERT IDENTIFICATION. C'est la vie. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 17-10-2005 09:11
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18887 Joined: 21.07.04 |
We take that as a compliment ! I understand your disappointment, but let's be real: Identifying female Muscidae or Anthomyiidae is the next near thing to magic. It can be done, by a very real expert, maybe. Unfortunately, we don't have this magician on board. (Judgment based on my experience with Tachinidae on this board, which is running nicely, by the way ! Keep posting !) Theo Zeegers |
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| Philippe moniotte |
Posted on 18-10-2005 08:56
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Member Location: Heron, Belgium Posts: 860 Joined: 14.10.05 |
Thanks to all who replied. It IS a compliment, by the way, and we completely understand the difficulty, even the impossibility in some cases. We were not disappointed, just joking  As a matter of fact, the statements about the how risky it is to suggest an iD in a given case is a perfectly valid and satisfying answer! Just in case, here is another picture of the same fly. Philippe http://users.skynet.be/fa213618  |
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| Christophe Grangier |
Posted on 18-10-2005 16:47
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Member Location: Isere (France) Posts: 147 Joined: 30.08.05 |
Yes I was joking too Even an attempt of ID will be welcome. And, naturally, a great "thank you" to all of you, who take your time replying dipterologists beginners. Christophe |
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