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Zenillia? => Winthemia
KimGH
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Posted on 11-10-2018 03:12
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Namwon-si, Jeollabuk-do, South Korea
18 September 2017
Host: Agrius convolvuli (Sphingidae)

ID please
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Head, lateral view

eyes pilose
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Abdomen, dorsal view
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Clearly A Winthemiini, quite likely Winthemia. Difficult genus in the Far Easr. Need to check the literature. Sphingidae are well-known hosts for this genus.

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This is a specimen escaped from the same host. I considered this specimen and the uploaded specimen are different species because the presence of yellow powdery. Are these specimens the same species?

I identified this species is probably Winthemia sp. near cruentata.
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Did you use Shima’s key for Far East ?

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I couldn't find Shima's paper. I used the genus key from MOSCHWEB and Tschorsnig & Herting's key for Central Europe.
In Korea, there are 2 Winthemia species are recorded: W. cruentata and W. venusta.
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OK. There are many more species in east Asia.
You really can’t use Tschorsnig & Herting in Korea !

I will look in to it.

Theo
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OK. Could you please make a picture of the ventral side of the abdomen and/or check if there is a pair of patches of specialized fluffy hairs on 4th (apparent: 3th) tergite ?

And could you change the title of this thread in 'Winthemia', please ?


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I edited what you commented.
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So, there are clear flurs of fluffy hairs on both tergites 4 and 5. This rules cruentata out.
The sexual dimorphism is striking.
It does not fit any of the Japanese species as described by Shima.


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