Gallery Links
Users Online
· Guests Online: 23

· Members Online: 0

· Total Members: 4,953
· Newest Member: Adam Poole
Forum Threads
Theme Switcher
Switch to:
Last Seen Users
· Juergen Peters01:11:50
· Joerg Schneider01:54:26
· John Carr01:58:40
· Mario Renden02:03:28
· Jann Wuebben...02:32:41
· smol03:10:57
· Tony Irwin03:32:48
· olep04:12:59
· Jan Maca05:17:19
· Nacho Cabellos05:18:35
Latest Photo Additions
View Thread
Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
Who is here? 1 guest(s)
 Print Thread
Zenillia? => Winthemia
KimGH
#1 Print Post
Posted on 11-10-2018 02:12
Member

Location:
Posts: 95
Joined: 04.03.18

Namwon-si, Jeollabuk-do, South Korea
18 September 2017
Host: Agrius convolvuli (Sphingidae)

ID please
KimGH attached the following image:


[107.12Kb]
Edited by KimGH on 15-10-2018 01:32
 
KimGH
#2 Print Post
Posted on 11-10-2018 02:13
Member

Location:
Posts: 95
Joined: 04.03.18

Head, lateral view

eyes pilose
KimGH attached the following image:


[254.12Kb]
 
KimGH
#3 Print Post
Posted on 11-10-2018 02:17
Member

Location:
Posts: 95
Joined: 04.03.18

Abdomen, dorsal view
KimGH attached the following image:


[34.31Kb]
Edited by KimGH on 11-10-2018 02:23
 
KimGH
#4 Print Post
Posted on 11-10-2018 02:27
Member

Location:
Posts: 95
Joined: 04.03.18

Wing
KimGH attached the following image:


[233.15Kb]
 
Zeegers
#5 Print Post
Posted on 11-10-2018 17:19
Member

Location: Soest, NL
Posts: 18518
Joined: 21.07.04

Clearly A Winthemiini, quite likely Winthemia. Difficult genus in the Far Easr. Need to check the literature. Sphingidae are well-known hosts for this genus.

Theo
 
KimGH
#6 Print Post
Posted on 12-10-2018 05:24
Member

Location:
Posts: 95
Joined: 04.03.18

This is a specimen escaped from the same host. I considered this specimen and the uploaded specimen are different species because the presence of yellow powdery. Are these specimens the same species?

I identified this species is probably Winthemia sp. near cruentata.
KimGH attached the following image:


[104.06Kb]
Edited by KimGH on 12-10-2018 05:26
 
Zeegers
#7 Print Post
Posted on 12-10-2018 08:26
Member

Location: Soest, NL
Posts: 18518
Joined: 21.07.04

Did you use Shima’s key for Far East ?

Theo
 
KimGH
#8 Print Post
Posted on 12-10-2018 09:13
Member

Location:
Posts: 95
Joined: 04.03.18

I couldn't find Shima's paper. I used the genus key from MOSCHWEB and Tschorsnig & Herting's key for Central Europe.
In Korea, there are 2 Winthemia species are recorded: W. cruentata and W. venusta.
Edited by KimGH on 12-10-2018 09:18
 
Zeegers
#9 Print Post
Posted on 12-10-2018 15:41
Member

Location: Soest, NL
Posts: 18518
Joined: 21.07.04

OK. There are many more species in east Asia.
You really can’t use Tschorsnig & Herting in Korea !

I will look in to it.

Theo
Edited by Zeegers on 12-10-2018 15:42
 
Zeegers
#10 Print Post
Posted on 12-10-2018 16:39
Member

Location: Soest, NL
Posts: 18518
Joined: 21.07.04

OK. Could you please make a picture of the ventral side of the abdomen and/or check if there is a pair of patches of specialized fluffy hairs on 4th (apparent: 3th) tergite ?

And could you change the title of this thread in 'Winthemia', please ?


Theo
 
KimGH
#11 Print Post
Posted on 15-10-2018 01:36
Member

Location:
Posts: 95
Joined: 04.03.18

I edited what you commented.
KimGH attached the following image:


[31.28Kb]
 
Zeegers
#12 Print Post
Posted on 15-10-2018 07:53
Member

Location: Soest, NL
Posts: 18518
Joined: 21.07.04

So, there are clear flurs of fluffy hairs on both tergites 4 and 5. This rules cruentata out.
The sexual dimorphism is striking.
It does not fit any of the Japanese species as described by Shima.


Theo
 
Jump to Forum:
Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
Tachinidae: Winthemia rufiventris ♀ Diptera (adults) 9 19-03-2024 12:05
Calliphoridae? Ecuador > Tachinidae Winthemiini cf. Winthemia Diptera (adults) 7 17-10-2023 07:40
Linnaemya sp.? => Winthemia cf. quadripustulata Diptera (adults) 3 30-07-2023 09:43
Tachinidae, help id, please -> Winthemia cruentata Diptera (adults) 4 25-12-2022 19:47
Winthemia cruentata or rufiventris << Family Tachinidae, possibly tribe Winthemiini << I Diptera (adults) 5 03-10-2022 11:06
Date and time
19 April 2024 23:11
Login
Username

Password



Not a member yet?
Click here to register.

Forgotten your password?
Request a new one here.
Temporary email?
Due to fact this site has functionality making use of your email address, any registration using a temporary email address will be rejected.

Paul
Donate
Please, help to make
Diptera.info
possible and enable
further improvements!
Latest Articles
Syrph the Net
Those who want to have access to the Syrph the Net database need to sign the
License Agreement -
Click to Download


Public files of Syrph the Net can be downloaded HERE

Last updated: 25.08.2011
Shoutbox
You must login to post a message.

07.03.24 00:01
Some flies preserved in ethanol and then pinned often get the eyes sunken, how can this be avoided? Best answer: I usually keep alcohol-collected material in alcohol

17.08.23 15:23
Aneomochtherus

17.08.23 13:54
Tony, I HAD a blank in the file name. Sorry!

17.08.23 13:44
Tony, thanks! I tried it (see "Cylindromyia" Wink but don't see the image in the post.

17.08.23 11:37
pjt - just send the post and attached image. Do not preview thread, as this will lose the link to the image,

16.08.23 08:37
Tried to attach an image to a forum post. jpg, 32kB, 72dpi, no blanks, ... File name is correctly displayed, but when I click "Preview Thread" it just vanishes. Help!

23.02.23 21:29
Has anyone used the Leica DM500, any comments.

27.12.22 21:10
Thanks, Jan Willem! Much appreciated. Grin

19.12.22 11:33
Thanks Paul for your work on keeping this forum available! Just made a donation via PayPal.

09.10.22 17:07
Yes, dipterologists from far abroad, please buy your copy at veldshop. Stamps will be expensive, but he, the book is unreasonably cheap Smile

Render time: 1.49 seconds | 191,254,243 unique visits