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Helcomyza ustulata ?
Stephane Lebrun	#1 Posted on 22-09-2007 21:01
Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07	Is this Helcomyza ustulata ? Sept. 22 2007. At seaside, on seaweeds, near Etretat (France). View #1 : Stephane Lebrun attached the following image: [94.75Kb] Stephane.


Stephane Lebrun	#2 Posted on 22-09-2007 21:02
Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07	View #2 : Stephane Lebrun attached the following image: [95.63Kb] Stephane.


Stephane Lebrun	#3 Posted on 22-09-2007 21:02
Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07	View #3 : Stephane Lebrun attached the following image: [88.35Kb] Stephane.


Stephane Lebrun	#4 Posted on 22-09-2007 21:03
Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07	Last view : Stephane Lebrun attached the following image: [75.12Kb] Stephane.


Nikita Vikhrev	#5 Posted on 22-09-2007 21:09
Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9475 Joined: 24.05.05	Stephane, it seems you have got new family for Diptera Gallery! Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University


Stephane Lebrun	#6 Posted on 22-09-2007 21:26
Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07	Thanks Nikita, a good news. Since the time I've been learning flies, I hadn't yet explored seasides. Shame upon me ! Stephane.


jorgemotalmeida	#7 Posted on 22-09-2007 21:59
Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06	Awesome fly!!!! New family, indeed: HELCOMYZIDAE! wow! I must seek for seaweeds! Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 22-09-2007 22:02


Nikita Vikhrev	#8 Posted on 22-09-2007 22:00
Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9475 Joined: 24.05.05	Since the time I've been learning flies, I hadn't yet explored seasides. Me too (or only hot seashores). I'm often thinking about several days I spend in Cancal 4 years ago I could collect a hell lot of flies which are rare in Russia... Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University


jorgemotalmeida	#9 Posted on 22-09-2007 22:01
Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06	you can find over there Coelopidae, Heterocheilidae! This last has a peculiar head.


Stephane Lebrun	#10 Posted on 22-09-2007 22:18
Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07	Well, I was looking for Coelopidae, Helcomyzidae and other typical beach flies. Stephane.


jorgemotalmeida	#11 Posted on 22-09-2007 22:29
Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06	aha! I must go to visit some beaches with lots of seaweeds.


Tony Irwin	#12 Posted on 23-09-2007 18:15
Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7306 Joined: 19.11.04	Well done, Stephane - a new family for the gallery, but not Helcomyzidae! This is Coelopidae, probably Coelopa pilipes. Helcomyza is not so flattened, is greyer, has a darkened cross-vein and spines on the costa. Keep looking on the seaweed, though - you will find it! Edited by Tony Irwin on 23-09-2007 18:17 Tony ---------- Tony Irwin


Stephane Lebrun	#13 Posted on 23-09-2007 18:34
Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07	Even so, I'm verry happy to have found a Coelopidae ! I haven't said my last word, I will find Helcomyza ! I submit them to the gallery. Thanks Tony. Stephane.


jorgemotalmeida	#14 Posted on 23-09-2007 19:16
Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06	me too, Stephane. Let?s go find Helcomyzidae! I will try to get Coelopidae and that unusual Sepsidae. And, who knows... Heterocheilidae. Great find.


jhstuke	#15 Posted on 24-09-2007 20:13
Member Location: Leer, Germany Posts: 147 Joined: 06.06.07	I add two photos of Helcomyza ustulata - that could be usefull when identifying maritim Acalyptratae. Jens-Hermann jhstuke attached the following image: [43.21Kb]


Stephane Lebrun	#16 Posted on 24-09-2007 20:47
Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07	Thanks Jens-Hermann. Now I know what I have to look for ! And indeed, it's very different from Coelopa ! A Nice species too. Greetings. Stephane.