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Bremse / Tabanus
Klaus Fritz
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Posted on 10-08-2018 20:14
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Hallo Team,
handelt es sich hier um Tabanus autumnalis oder T. sudeticus?

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D-21266 Jesteburg/Waldklinik/15.07.2018/ --> Kl.: ca. 23 mm

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Posted on 11-08-2018 08:51
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Neither. It is bromius, please obserne the eye band. Sudeticus is much much bigger.

Theo
 
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Did you really measure it ? It is 15mm., not 23mm.
 
Klaus Fritz
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Posted on 11-08-2018 21:42
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Hallo Theo,
my answer
a.) The length of my fly has been estimated to be 23 mm from head to wingtip
b.) In the eye you can see a bandage at high magnification. ( see photo)
c.) Tabanus bromius --> length 11,5 mm bis 19,5 mm (Wikipedia)

Theo, is the name Tabanus bromius??

Viele Grüße,
Klaus

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Zeegers
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Posted on 12-08-2018 10:03
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Yes, it is the female of bromius. The other species don’t have eye bands. You must have overestimated its length, this often happens in living specimens.

Theo
 
Klaus Fritz
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Posted on 12-08-2018 19:23
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Hello Theo,
thank you for the determination help

Viele Grüße,
Klaus
 
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