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Big Tachinidae (Peleteria?)
Isidro
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Posted on 17-09-2007 12:56
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Various months ago I posted here a bad picture of a big orangish tachind that someone identified as Peleteria sp.

Yesterday in the same place, I found many, many of these flies (if it's the same), most of them sucking flowers (Mentha and Daucus above all).

Yesterday at Sabi?anigo, Huesca, Aragon, Spain. Pre-Pyrenees. Between Atlantic and Mediterranean climate. Habitat: prairie dominates by Daucus carota, Eryngium campestre and Conyza sp. Near a small river. Size: 12-13 mm.


aycu11.webshots.com/image/26690/2004384379171603445_rs.jpg

aycu34.webshots.com/image/26993/2004333082727210002_rs.jpg

If anyone need a view of the proboscis I have a picture showing it.

Thanks Wink
Edited by Isidro on 17-09-2007 13:00
 
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Peleteria have some small, thick bristles in the parafacial/cheeks area between the eye and the mouth so this isn't Peleteria. In that case, given the reddish legs I'd say it is a Tachina, but it's hard to say which species when you have so many very similar species down there Smile
 
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That?'s a pity. Thanks!
 
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Well, since Isidro asked,

jizz is that of T. fera, however, the frontal tarsi are quite dark.
So one of those intermediate speimens.
Would need to see the specimen to be more sure.


Theo
 
Isidro
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Posted on 19-09-2007 00:43
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Thanks Theo!!!

I had a picture determined as T. fera by the only Spanish dipteran specialist (M. Carles-Tolr?) and had the legs much darker. variation?
 
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NO.
Tachina fera typically has red legs.
So either your fera is atypical (which is possible) or the ID is wrong.


Theo
 
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Yes, was red, but more dark. Seeing the picture, I see now than are differences of colour in the face, the eyes and the pronotum.

aycu28.webshots.com/image/29547/2001300755675416080_rs.jpgaycu01.webshots.com/image/29240/2001300168503993215_rs.jpg

left, Tachina fera, identification sure. Right, the other Tachina than also, was bigger.
Edited by Isidro on 19-09-2007 23:45
 
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