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Tachinidae? = Phorocera obscura male
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johnes81 |
Posted on 17-04-2018 17:10
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
female - April 2018 - Berlin - woodlands on a tree hairy eyes and long antennae make me think of Tachinidae but the pulvilli are quite large. Is it possible to get a genus? I have a specimen but microscopic work will not happen yet. I'm too busy to examine it right now. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank You for your time. Edit: this is a male. my apologies for the error. johnes81 attached the following image: [63.46Kb] Edited by johnes81 on 19-04-2018 18:15 John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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johnes81 |
Posted on 17-04-2018 17:12
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
ps: she measures circa 6.2mm
John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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johnes81 |
Posted on 18-04-2018 19:44
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
this one is very strange. i will try to examine it this weekend, so maybe it is best to wait until we can see more details. my photos are not very good. I will return to this thread when i have microscopic photos. I can't even see if the arista are hairy. I shall return with photos this weekend...
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Zeegers |
Posted on 18-04-2018 21:37
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18538 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Might very well benPhorocera obscura, but a lateral view would be nice. Theo |
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johnes81 |
Posted on 19-04-2018 11:52
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Hello Theo, i was looking through the gallery and I noticed similarities with Phorocera obscura. I will look at it today instead of the weekend. I also have my first Protocalliphora to examine, so I will get to work soon. I'll post a lateral photo and some microscopic photos. Anything particular that I should photograph? I'll try to cover all of the bases. John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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johnes81 |
Posted on 19-04-2018 17:47
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
correction: this is a male. my apologies for the error. I am used to Calliphoridae and eye separation. I have trouble switching mental modes. So he measures 6.2mm.
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johnes81 |
Posted on 19-04-2018 17:48
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
head
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johnes81 |
Posted on 19-04-2018 17:48
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
antennae
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johnes81 |
Posted on 19-04-2018 17:48
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
prosternum is hairy
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johnes81 |
Posted on 19-04-2018 17:49
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
wing has some hairs present and a shadow fold is also present
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johnes81 |
Posted on 19-04-2018 17:49
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
palpi are yellow/orange
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johnes81 |
Posted on 19-04-2018 17:50
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
discovered it is a male. epandrium, cerci
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johnes81 |
Posted on 19-04-2018 17:50
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
epandrium cerci lateral
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johnes81 |
Posted on 19-04-2018 17:51
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
cerci angled
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johnes81 |
Posted on 19-04-2018 17:51
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
cerci dissected
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johnes81 |
Posted on 19-04-2018 17:52
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
surstyli visible
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johnes81 |
Posted on 19-04-2018 17:52
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
sternite 5
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johnes81 |
Posted on 19-04-2018 17:56
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
sorry for the delay. I also examined a female Pollenia cf viatica, thus i am a bit tired now. The photos aren\t the best. I still have a cheap microscope. I'll try to upgrade sometime this year. Phorocera seems to fit well. Thank you for your time. John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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Zeegers |
Posted on 19-04-2018 17:58
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18538 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Yeap ! The very large genitalia are typical for Phorocera. This is Ph. obscura. Very common, esp. in May, so get to know this one ! It is much more elongated than most other Tachinidae (hence often ‘identified’. as Sarcophagidae ) Theo |
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johnes81 |
Posted on 19-04-2018 18:05
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
blitzschnell, Theo Thank You very much for your time. I thought it was a sarc until i looked at my photos. I am happy to find this one. I like Tachinids but i still have alot to learn about them. I'd like to upgrade my microscope soon for better photos. I'll start looking for a better setup. Meantime, I found it sitting on a tree trunk in the sunshine along a pathway between a field and woodlands. I will study the photos now. He is very interesting and very pretty despite being grayish. Tachinids are very interesting. I will clear the genitalia in clove oil for a day or two, then try to make better photos. I'll add them to the gallery along with a better lateral photo. Thanks again, Theo. I have much to learn about Tachinids. I'm actually hoping to find some Istochaeta. If I find them, I'll let you know immediately. I hope that you have a pleasant day. Edited by johnes81 on 19-04-2018 18:06 John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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