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 Black Muscidae: Phaonia atriceps ? No, perhaps Hebecnema sp., female
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| kuv |
Posted on 12-12-2017 17:27
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3620 Joined: 30.04.10 |
Denmark, island Fyn, Middelfart, coastal area at the Fænøsund, at a leaf of bramble; Outsidephotos: kuv, 31th of July 2016. Is my idea ok? Please help. Kuv kuv attached the following image:  [167.78Kb] Edited by kuv on 16-12-2017 14:13 |
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| kuv |
Posted on 12-12-2017 17:27
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3620 Joined: 30.04.10 |
2nd picture:
kuv attached the following image:  [153.57Kb] |
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| tristram |
Posted on 12-12-2017 19:58
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Member Location: Reading, UK Posts: 1329 Joined: 27.06.10 |
Phaonia atriceps should have 3 posterior bristles on its mid tibia. It might be Phaonia halterata which has only 2. |
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| kuv |
Posted on 13-12-2017 16:56
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3620 Joined: 30.04.10 |
Thank you very much tristram  - so I'll change headline.Best regards Kuv |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 13-12-2017 21:16
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
I don't think it is P. halterata, which has 3 post dc and pubescent arista. I think to a female Hebecnema nigra (I can't see any Phaonia bristle), but I'm bothered because it seems to have a long prealar (and prst acr ?). Very difficult to see. If really so, it would be something else, but I can't see what. Edited by Stephane Lebrun on 13-12-2017 21:17 Stephane. |
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| kuv |
Posted on 14-12-2017 10:47
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3620 Joined: 30.04.10 |
Thank you very much Stephane. I think so it still should be named "Muscidae (unidentifiable)" but first I try to give you a better (?) look with an enlargement of the first photo - hoping I had understood you in the right way. Greetings Kuv kuv attached the following image:  [91.51Kb] Edited by kuv on 15-12-2017 11:10 |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 14-12-2017 12:04
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 Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
I think that Hebecnema is correct.
John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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| kuv |
Posted on 15-12-2017 11:15
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3620 Joined: 30.04.10 |
Thank you very much John and Nini for your assessment. Greetings Kuv |
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but don't see the image in the post.