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johnes81	#1 Posted on 22-11-2017 18:09
Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16	Berlin - May don't remember details and I only have this photo. I thought it to be a Tachinid but the eyes are large and I don't remember any Tachinids that look like this other than Rondania and Phania. I'd like to place it in a Family and I am hopeful for a genus. Thank You for your Time johnes81 attached the following image: [158.61Kb] John and Nini. Naturalists not experts.


Paul Beuk	#2 Posted on 22-11-2017 18:45
Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19229 Joined: 11.05.04	Phania funesta, I'd say Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info


johnes81	#3 Posted on 22-11-2017 18:49
Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16	interesting, Paul. I am confused now. I dissected a male last month and I think that it looks different. I think that I must re-evaluate my determination. I'll have to look at my photos ... I may end up making a new post John and Nini. Naturalists not experts.


Paul Beuk	#4 Posted on 22-11-2017 18:57
Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19229 Joined: 11.05.04	I think this is a male, because of the narrow frons... The female has a long ovipositor that is curved underneath the abdomen. Edited by Paul Beuk on 22-11-2017 18:57 Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info


Paul Beuk	#5 Posted on 22-11-2017 18:59
Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19229 Joined: 11.05.04	I assume you have the key here: http://biodiversi...e/33533805 Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info


johnes81	#6 Posted on 22-11-2017 19:08
Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16	here is a photo also from May of a male fly which I have recently determined to be Phania funesta. I think that this fly does not look like the one in question here. So either my determination is incorrect or this fly of this post is not Phania funesta. edit: or they are both Phania funesta. The eyes look different but I am not an expert johnes81 attached the following image: [219.71Kb] Edited by johnes81 on 22-11-2017 19:09 John and Nini. Naturalists not experts.


Paul Beuk	#7 Posted on 22-11-2017 21:19
Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19229 Joined: 11.05.04	Well, we defenitely have true tachinid specialists here that can set me right. Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info


johnes81	#8 Posted on 22-11-2017 21:59
Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16	Very few members id by genitalia so I will just have to re-key my dissected specimen. Regarding the species in question: I only have one photo, so I will just accept it as a Tachinid. I think that a genus is not possible. Thank You very much Paul. I truly appreciate you. Maybe I can find it again next year. John and Nini. Naturalists not experts.